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Kirth

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Rucksack
« on: February 22, 2010 »

Now that I nearly have everything to an over-nighter, I have realised that the 30 rucksack I have might just be on the small side. So was wondering what you guys recommended for carrying tent, sleep mat, sleep bag, cooking equip, Hairdryer, straighteners, etc!

I would hardly be going away for more than a night, so was thinking a 50L would do the trick, or am I better to play it safe with a 60/65.  I have a feeling it will be like my garage, the more space you have the crap you put in it!
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010 »

Im goin for this.. bit pricey but tried it on in cotswold and that was it i have to have it

http://www.ospreypacks.com/Packs/ExosSeriesVentilated/Exos46/

Osprey also do a 58litre in it but cotswold dont stock it... once my kit list is complete i'll be able to work out if the 46 will be suffice or move up to the 58
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010 »

Real nice pack that kendog... Must get myself sorted with a new pack ::)

Kirth I personally think that 40 - 45 litres as a winter size is almost perfect and it is true the more space the more you will fill it but it comes down to what you feel comfortable with. The smaller pack forces you to relly consider what is essential after all it's down to you to carry it and believe me it feels light at the start but as the day goes on... well that's when you regret steaks, pepper sauce ,beer etc  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010 »

I find that TNF terra 30 fine for an overnight trip. Gear wise I have a pro action, Nanok down sleeping bag, Msr pocket rocket and titan kettle. On top of that I was able to fit in my camera and tripod, a roll mat, a sigg 1lt bottle, food for me and the dog and my montane extreme smock. I could prob stay out for 2 or 3 nights with that bag no probs the only thing that would limit me is food.
In my opinion you'd be better sticking with the bag you have and buying some stuff sacks to compress the gear you already own, and an OMM Trio chest pouch.
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010 »

I have a Vango Contour 50+10.

http://www.cave-crag.co.uk/2170/Vango-Contour-50-10S-Rucksack.html?referrer=froogle&utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=pid2170

It's an alright bag - bit heavy at 2200g but considering it's only £40 I think it's a good first bag. I really want something lighter but am wary of the lighter bags not distributing the weight to the hips as well which I keep hearing is essential if you're not Geoff Capes.
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010 »

I find that TNF terra 30 fine for an overnight trip. Gear wise I have a pro action, Nanok down sleeping bag, Msr pocket rocket and titan kettle. On top of that I was able to fit in my camera and tripod, a roll mat, a sigg 1lt bottle, food for me and the dog and my montane extreme smock. I could prob stay out for 2 or 3 nights with that bag no probs the only thing that would limit me is food.
In my opinion you'd be better sticking with the bag you have and buying some stuff sacks to compress the gear you already own, and an OMM Trio chest pouch.

Will defo try packing it all in it and get wee chest pouch.  I woouldnt be carrying tripod etc, but my collapsible Vanity Case is bulky!
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2010 »

would you pack all your gear in a dry bag, or just the clothing
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2010 »

would you pack all your gear in a dry bag, or just the clothing

I'm a bit of a cheap skate when it comes to buying stuff! I use a garden waste sack (a thick bin bag!) to line the bag then stuff gets its own ziplock bag, carrier bags just dont cut the mustard as I learnt from experience, its not fun crossing a river thinking your kit is sweet only to find everything is soaked! and you've another night on the hills!
I guess in the long run a Dry bag would be a lot more durable (although I've had this "liner" for about 5years!) and with the roll close top prob more waterproof.
If I was ever to get a Dry Bag I'd go for the ones that you can squeeze the air out the bottom of, that way you could effectively vacum seal the contents of your bag, and if you got a few small ones for clothes, food etc you'd be flyin!
But in answer to your question, I'd waterproof everything just to be safe!
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2010 »

Just a quick note to say that I read somewhere that the Terra 30 actually works out about 36 litres when it was tested on a review.

So it's probably a bit roomier than you think :o
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010 »

Thick plastic rubble bags like Chris suggests are pretty good as a pack liner, but if it lashes down you might regret not having a roll top, no reason you couldn't just add one to them yourself though.

My camera and down kit gets dry-bagged because they don't like the wet, but unless its forecast rain everything else just sits in thin alpkit stuff sacks which unfortunately aint waterproof. As long as your sleeping gear stays dry you can deal with the rest getting wet  ;)

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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010 »

I tend to put the sleeping bag in a bin liner and spare clothes in a light drybag. The rest I just stuff in. I find it really hard to pack all my gear inside a drybag inside the rucksack so I usually don't bother.
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2010 »

That is a problem with drybags, I find a bit of tough love with what isn't dry bagged and careful packing usually gets around it though.
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Re: Rucksack
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2010 »

I recently got myself a new pack.  Went for the Golite Quest which in comparison to the packs listed above is positively massive!  That said, I need it for a week long trip on the WHW so will be carrying more than an overnighter anyway.  The other thing is that at 1450g its lighter than a lot of day packs you find in Cotswold etc. never mind rucksacks.  It appears most rucksacks at the 65 litre mark weigh in around 2 - 2.5kg which seemed like a lot of weight to me for an empty bag.  It also has some handy toggles on the bottom that allows the pack to be compressed down to around 25 litres so its much more versatile than it might first appear.

If you want the same capacity, but lighter again, there is the Golite Pinnacle which weighs in at 905g.  As far as I know the weight saving is made by not having a rigid back support system, meaning you have to be a bit more careful with your packing and base weight.  If those capacities sound just too big then take a look at the Jam pack.

I havent had a chance to take the Golite pack outdoors yet, but it seems very well made and despite the weight savings I've no concerns about durability.
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