Topic: Feasts,down pours & rescue's (Read 35254 times)

LennyJ1 · « **Reply #60 on:** August 22, 2012 »

For anyone who knows me knows I'm quiet laid back.

I can understand how people get into trouble on the hills but it is down the 7 p's at the end of the day which I think where dean is coming from.

The one thing I don't understand is why did you not have you own torch or some sort of spare? I have seen you gear set up and you look to have a good one which is why I ask.

Ed · « **Reply #61 on:** August 22, 2012 »

Quote from: LennyJ1 on August 22, 2012

For anyone who knows me knows I'm quiet laid back.

I can understand how people get into trouble on the hills but it is down the 7 p's at the end of the day which I think where dean is coming from.

The one thing I don't understand is why did you not have you own torch or some sort of spare? I have seen you gear set up and you look to have a good one which is why I ask.

We each had our own but unfortunately I stashed them both (amongst some other things) in the same drybag to protect them from the downpour - the drybag was at some point lost. Probably would have been better to keep them both separate, maybe one in someones coat rather than the drybag, but it wasn't something I considered in the rush to batten down the hatches for the rain.

To use IT vernacular two issues I considered in the day that followed were redundancy and points of failure

The drybag was definitely a SPF.

A.

dean1970 · « **Reply #62 on:** August 22, 2012 »

Osin who ever you are, why say you honestly don't care. That's quite a sad thing to say. You dont care about opinions. How do you get through life having that attitude.

dean1970 · « **Reply #63 on:** August 22, 2012 »

Ok. Here goes. You messed up. It worked out ok. Now, listen, you put other people's lives at risk. You were not prepared. Now, you phone for rescue, rescue get hurt, what you going to say to their family. Now, grow up. So up your own importance its annoying.
Rescue will say I'm out of line here.
Messing around losing stuff, not got the kit. Yet, I'm the time waster here, not being positive. Being in the wrong for criticizing. Catch a grip. I bust my back
Carrying stuff I hope I won't need. No one is perfect, but everyone can improve.

You got the steaks, got the gas got it all. You ain't got something to keep you safe for a night in bad weather.

You take offence, at least you have listened.

Parting words to those reading this thread that you are so concerned about,

Be prepared

Are we there yet? · « **Reply #64 on:** August 22, 2012 »

Now... let it go.. both involved are feeling bad enough. They made the right decision to make the call! They're not dead, so all is good. Enough!

Daithi2004 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 23, 2012 »

Quote from: AnnieAnne on August 22, 2012

Now... let it go.. both involved are feeling bad enough. They made the right decision to make the call! They're not dead, so all is good. Enough!

Here here.... I am amazed at how this thread has gone.....

Oisín · « **Reply #66 on:** August 23, 2012 »

Dean, I think I can say what everyone is thinking about your comments, your being a bit of a arsehole.

I don't see why your criticizing two of our members when they both already know that they shouldn't have lost their torches, but it happened.

And now your trying to make them feel guilt by saying things like "what are you going to say to their family", out of order, its unnecessary and unwanted.

You are obviously so much better than us all because you have never done wrong. We should all aspire to be like Dean. (Note the sarcasm please)

I think the best thing you could do is to not comment anymore and go away.
Thanks

Rusty Madra · « **Reply #67 on:** August 23, 2012 »

I'm pretty dissapointed this thread soured a little. One of the reasons I quite like Wild NI is the fact that it dosen't desintegrate into squabbling like other forums.

I defend anyone's right to go anywhere and do whatever outdoor activity if they believe it's within their capabilities. This is the spirit of adventure. By all means we can educate people, tell them of the risks and point them in the right direction. We can disagree with them and tell them that it may be dangerous: but ultimately if they want to explore the outdoors then fair play to them. Some of the best adventures I've ever had have been hairy, dangerous and the best ones definately had big elements of risk. I'm sure many of us started out stumbling about the outdoors in jeans with no fieldcraft whatsoever.

I know I learned from positive encouragement and enthusiasm from those more experienced. I was never belittled but instead shown more effective ways of operating in a positive manner. This is what made it all enjoyable and continued to make our peculiar hobbies fun.

Playing the blame game dosen't help anyone. It dosen't make anyone sound important or clever. And it dosen't add inches to your "walking pole".

Mourneman · « **Reply #68 on:** August 23, 2012 »

To quote Kipling, " If you can keep calm when everybody else is panicking and blaming other people then... (you'll be a man, my son)" ,dean i'am only going to say this,you'll never share a sunrise or a pitch with me climbing, a man that has nothing to learn has nothing to loose,& is a danger to everyone,i've seen it all mucker,ran the sixty second distance & met many a folk along the way,good night folk

dean1970 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 23, 2012 »

I'm an asshole now. Earlier I was bent.

dean1970 · « **Reply #70 on:** August 23, 2012 »

Another insult.

Rusty Madra · « **Reply #71 on:** August 23, 2012 »

I think everyone's said what they've needed to say. Let's let go of this topic. It's not a great example to new members of what Wild NI is really about! Bickering is beneath us.... We're Wild NI!

Mourneman · « **Reply #72 on:** August 23, 2012 »

actually we' NI-wild ,lol anyway Rusty we going hiking this week,i'll get chatting to you on Friday,there's plans for a wee Luke's mountain camp coming up,with our very own MMRT Liam

dean1970 · « **Reply #73 on:** August 23, 2012 »

Quote from: Mourneman on August 23, 2012

To quote Kipling, " If you can keep calm when everybody else is panicking and blaming other people then... (you'll be a man, my son)" ,dean i'am only going to say this,you'll never share a sunrise or a pitch with me climbing, a man that has nothing to learn has nothing to loose,& is a danger to everyone,i've seen it all mucker,ran the sixty second distance & met many a folk along the way,good night folk

I will never share a sunrise or a camp with you? Not a friendly kind of thing to say. Maybe I have picked this up wrong. Maybe its a threat to my wellbeing. I do feel threatened now. What would happen if I where in the same area?

dean1970 · « **Reply #74 on:** August 23, 2012 »

Just thinking of the implications here. This is an issue.

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