120 Litre back pack im looking at

[Wolf_Larson]

http://www.thearmystore.co.uk/acatalog/Kombat_120_Litre_Bergen__Camo_.html

Would anyone take a backpack like this one for a Friday to Sunday camp. Or is it to big ?

With one man tent, sleeping bag, roll mat, food, ETC...........

[Samm]

http://www.thearmystore.co.uk/acatalog/Kombat_120_Litre_Bergen__Camo_.html

Would anyone take a backpack like this one for a Friday to Sunday camp. Or is it to big ?

With one man tent, sleeping bag, roll mat, food, ETC...........

Far too big.  The bigger the bag the more stuff you will fill it with and therefore the more you have to carry.  I would say, for a weekend away a 60-70l would be more than enough and that's without going minimalist. Lots of room for creature comforts in a 60-70l bag.

[Wolf_Larson]

http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/160727581776?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&adtype=pla

Would that one be fine ?

[Craigy123]

I'm not sure, but I think the side pockets come off those military style ones. But I agree, something around 60/70 l is enough. Your roll mat can be tied outside.

[LandyLiam]

even i couldn't fill a 120 litre bag, actually maybe i could    , but i then i wouldn't be able to carry it 

[Rusty Madra]

I'm still unsure about the mil-tec molle range. My 30 litre day sack fell apart quicker than Katie Perry's marriage. The molle packs are great I'm just not sure of the quality of the mil-tec brand molle stuff.

[Samm]

http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/160727581776?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&adtype=pla

Would that one be fine ?

Personally I'm not a fan of side pockets as they make a bag really hard to balance properly, and they seem like pockets on steroids! Also, you become twice your actual width and makes hiking in anything other than very open land quite difficult. I know nothing about army gear, but for that money I'd go around a few outdoor shops and try on the bags there and find something that suits your shape. Just cause you like the look of a bag, it doesn't mean it'll suit you. For that money, I'd do some research in person, trying everything on.  They'll also add weight to sacks, so it'll give you some idea of how heavy a fully loaded 70l sack is and will make you want to go for a smaller bag so you never end up hiking with that weight!

[Mourneman]

mate you're wrecking yourself with that big pack,even for a winter two nighter a 60 litre pack is more than enough,shop around,try packs see how they feel.Here's one to think about- http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/index.cfm/product/vango-contour-60-10/fuseaction/products.detail/code/61110249/id_colour/124/group/219/level/3

[Wolf_Larson]

mate you're wrecking yourself with that big pack,even for a winter two nighter a 60 litre pack is more than enough,shop around,try packs see how they feel.Here's one to think about- http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/index.cfm/product/vango-contour-60-10/fuseaction/products.detail/code/61110249/id_colour/124/group/219/level/3

Real nice, realy like the look of that bag. I got a 45 liter bag "very silly" cant fit alot into it, thanks for all the info team.

[LandyLiam]

If you really want a big pack the pro-action 90+10 at £43 in argos is good value, i know someone with one and he is happy with it
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3400140/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CSports+and+leisure%7C14419152/c_2/2%7C14419152%7CCamping%7C14419397/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419397%7CRucksacks%7C14419410.htm


but i'd recommend the regatta 65 litre at £35, if find it isn't quite big enough you simply use the external straps to hold the tent and rollmat
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3403226/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CSports+and+leisure%7C14419152/c_2/2%7C14419152%7CCamping%7C14419397/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419397%7CRucksacks%7C14419410.htm

[Wolf_Larson]

If you really want a big pack the pro-action 90+10 at £43 in argos is good value, i know someone with one and he is happy with it
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3400140/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CSports+and+leisure%7C14419152/c_2/2%7C14419152%7CCamping%7C14419397/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419397%7CRucksacks%7C14419410.htm


but i'd recommend the regatta 65 litre at £35, if find it isn't quite big enough you simply use the external straps to hold the tent and rollmat
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3403226/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CSports+and+leisure%7C14419152/c_2/2%7C14419152%7CCamping%7C14419397/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419397%7CRucksacks%7C14419410.htm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Action-60L-10L-Rucksack-Backpack-NEW-SEALED-/110824935490?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D320856838249%26ps%3D54
Is this one good for the money and can it carry roll mat outside it. Also what can i use to keep roll mat dry when out side the bag ?

[Scribble]

You can wrap roll mat up in a black bin bag  also handy to stuff extra coat/jumper in and use as a seat

[whoRya]

Wolf, you have an interesting and amusing way of looking at gear.  On the same thread you have posted links to a £129.99 rucksack as well as a £10.99 rucksack! 

A suggestion would be to have a good look round the shops, it may help you decide on the kind of features you are looking for.

[Wolf_Larson]

Wolf, you have an interesting and amusing way of looking at gear.  On the same thread you have posted links to a £129.99 rucksack as well as a £10.99 rucksack! 

A suggestion would be to have a good look round the shops, it may help you decide on the kind of features you are looking for.

I dont think this backpack will be water proof, so what do you call the thing i can buy to make it water proof while walking, and do they state the 70 Lite size on them

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Action-60L-10L-Rucksack-Backpack-NEW-SEALED-/110824935490?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D320856838249%26ps%3D54

P.S I have no idea about camping to be honest so thats why i ask here, dont realy like big stores would rather use army surplus or something along them lines as they are alot cheaper than cotts world, blacks, ETC.......

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[whoRya]

Rucksacks tend not to be waterproof, some may be good at shedding light rain.  But most people will either waterproof the contents of the rucksack or the cover the rucksack on the outside with a rucksack rain cover. 

The contents can be waterproofed using plastic bags/bin bags or more robust dry bags or rucksack liners which you find in any of the outdoor shops or even the like of TK Maxx.

It's hard to beat actually seeing some of the items in the flesh, even to get an diea of what they are like.  It's your choice to buy it from where ever you wish after that.