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Started by RedLeader, August 13, 2010, 09:29:33 AM

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chris

Quote from: landyliam on August 13, 2010, 04:02:06 PM
i always chuck a few bananas in the rucksack, nice green ones  ;) (usually yellow by end of a hot summer day) i've no idea how much carbs, protein, fat or even alcohol  ::) is in them but they seem to keep me going and i've heard they release energy slowly, is this true? apparently the unripe ones also slow the auld bowels down too  8)

a little question to add to J's, what do you bring to drink? (non-alcoholic!!) is water the best or do these energy drinks have any real benefit, i.e. would a red bull shot get you up that final bit of Slieve Donard quicker?

You can buy tablets to replace electrolytes faster but a tea spoon full of sugar and a pinch of salt in a litre bottle does the same job. Energy gels/ Liquids are good in theory but usually if you look closely once you consume the first one you have to use them quite frequently to reap any benefit, one well known gel states you need to eating 4 and hour! You need to drink a pint of water with each one.

Celt_Ginger

Quote from: chris on August 13, 2010, 08:19:29 PM
Quote from: 666_pack on August 13, 2010, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Ginger on August 13, 2010, 02:42:07 PM
Flip sake, all this high tech bumf about carbs and stuff is just bewildering, and frankly, I couldn't give a stuff. I take what I want to, which is usually home made. Stuff like corned beef hash, mince stew, beef in ale etc. It's made up at home, vac packed, frozen and then heated when I'm out. I'm really not that bothered by trying to save the last ounce or two. You're only going up the Mournes. It's not like it's Everest or even the Alps.

True but you have to make the most of whats available. We can't all be as "hardcore"as the NIBA ;)

;)



Remember mate if you can see your car... You ain't outside!!
LOL

Celt_Ginger

Quote from: 666_pack on August 13, 2010, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Ginger on August 13, 2010, 02:42:07 PM
Flip sake, all this high tech bumf about carbs and stuff is just bewildering, and frankly, I couldn't give a stuff. I take what I want to, which is usually home made. Stuff like corned beef hash, mince stew, beef in ale etc. It's made up at home, vac packed, frozen and then heated when I'm out. I'm really not that bothered by trying to save the last ounce or two. You're only going up the Mournes. It's not like it's Everest or even the Alps.

True but you have to make the most of whats available. We can't all be as "hardcore"as the NIBA ;)



http://www.bushcraftni.com/bushcraftni.com/Blog/Entries/2010/1/8_Return_to_the_Cabin_in_the_Woods.html


;)




It's only as hard core as you choose to make it. Any fool can rough it. It takes  some thought to make yourself comfortable. Given the choice between some dehydrated powdery stuff from a factory and some home made proper food..................well, I guess if you're on a expedition to the top of Slieve Donnard and your sherpas can only carry about 55 kilos each then the dehydrated stuff might be useful........




Is this  a bit more hard core?


Or this


Now this is proper food


Or mayby this?

Only winding you lightweight mountain goats up by the way....   You wouldn't catch me trudging up a mountain just for the fun of it, with any kind of food. Much happier in the woods where I can eat normally.



Celt_Ginger

Quote from: chris on August 13, 2010, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: landyliam on August 13, 2010, 04:02:06 PM
i always chuck a few bananas in the rucksack, nice green ones  ;) (usually yellow by end of a hot summer day) i've no idea how much carbs, protein, fat or even alcohol  ::) is in them but they seem to keep me going and i've heard they release energy slowly, is this true? apparently the unripe ones also slow the auld bowels down too  8)

a little question to add to J's, what do you bring to drink? (non-alcoholic!!) is water the best or do these energy drinks have any real benefit, i.e. would a red bull shot get you up that final bit of Slieve Donard quicker?

You can buy tablets to replace electrolytes faster but a tea spoon full of sugar and a pinch of salt in a litre bottle does the same job. Energy gels/ Liquids are good in theory but usually if you look closely once you consume the first one you have to use them quite frequently to reap any benefit, one well known gel states you need to eating 4 and hour! You need to drink a pint of water with each one.

Makes you wonder how anyone managed to climb mountains in the olden days.

chris


chris


twentyclicks

Quote from: Celt_Ginger on August 13, 2010, 08:43:08 PM
Makes you wonder how anyone managed to climb mountains in the olden days.

Little mountains - same as us (with a snack in a pocket); big mountains - slowly, unsuccessfully or with a lot of help  :D

I know the science is irrelevent for most people, but sure, it's there for anyone who is interested.  It matters to me because I felt like crap for years eating the standard fare and, as I have a very active lifestyle (and want to climb a Gasherbrum someday).... need all the help I can get ;)
Craig
-----------------------
"Go thou my incense upward from this hearth,
And ask the gods to pardon this clear flame." - Thoreau

Greyfox

Quote from: 666_pack on August 13, 2010, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Ginger on August 13, 2010, 02:42:07 PM
Flip sake, all this high tech bumf about carbs and stuff is just bewildering, and frankly, I couldn't give a stuff. I take what I want to, which is usually home made. Stuff like corned beef hash, mince stew, beef in ale etc. It's made up at home, vac packed, frozen and then heated when I'm out. I'm really not that bothered by trying to save the last ounce or two. You're only going up the Mournes. It's not like it's Everest or even the Alps.

True but you have to make the most of whats available. We can't all be as "hardcore"as the NIBA ;)



Just to clarify that this isnt the opinion of the NIBA as a collective its just the opinion of one person. The NIBA has never considered itself to be a hardcore survival association nor does it want to be considered as such. I myself do understand the need for high calorie nutritious foods when taking part in events which recognise that time is a precious commodity and eating on the move a priority hence taste is sometimes substituted to keep the body correctly fed. I myself have taken part in endurance events in the past and have relied on such foods. I do understand that this thread was started with a serious question and a bit of ribbing has taken place but i felt i needed to clarify our position as the leader of the Association in case some of you reading it who have never met me take the comments made as a dig from the NIBA.

regards

Paul
Northern Ireland Survival School
"Teaching yesterday skills today"
www.nisurvival.co.uk
[email protected]

Celt_Ginger

Quote from: Greyfox on August 15, 2010, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: 666_pack on August 13, 2010, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Ginger on August 13, 2010, 02:42:07 PM
Flip sake, all this high tech bumf about carbs and stuff is just bewildering, and frankly, I couldn't give a stuff. I take what I want to, which is usually home made. Stuff like corned beef hash, mince stew, beef in ale etc. It's made up at home, vac packed, frozen and then heated when I'm out. I'm really not that bothered by trying to save the last ounce or two. You're only going up the Mournes. It's not like it's Everest or even the Alps.

True but you have to make the most of whats available. We can't all be as "hardcore"as the NIBA ;)



Just to clarify that this isnt the opinion of the NIBA as a collective its just the opinion of one person. The NIBA has never considered itself to be a hardcore survival association nor does it want to be considered as such. I myself do understand the need for high calorie nutritious foods when taking part in events which recognise that time is a precious commodity and eating on the move a priority hence taste is sometimes substituted to keep the body correctly fed. I myself have taken part in endurance events in the past and have relied on such foods. I do understand that this thread was started with a serious question and a bit of ribbing has taken place but i felt i needed to clarify our position as the leader of the Association in case some of you reading it who have never met me take the comments made as a dig from the NIBA.

regards

Paul

Wowwwww. Slow down Paul. You are getting a bit carried away.

MG1

Its a just a bit of friendly banter. We're all friends on here :)
If you die with all your parts working your not trying hard enough!

RedLeader

Yep  :D

Quote from: MG1 on August 16, 2010, 10:29:47 AM
Its a just a bit of friendly banter. We're all friends on here :)

LennyJ1

Quote from: MG1 on August 16, 2010, 10:29:47 AM
Its a just a bit of friendly banter. We're all friends on here :)

we sure are
No one goes inside to clear their head



RedLeader


ChuckMcB

#29
Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays ;D