How much would you spend to save 1kg?

[RedLeader]

I thought aluminium had been found to be entirely safe for cookware?

I suppose if you are just boiling water, aluminium is ok, but I don't like the idea of cooking food in it or trying to clean burnt-on remnants as it's easier to damage and leaches with acids in foods etc. Admittedly, the matt surface finish on the titanium is curious to me, but the pot I use is robust and a nice shape/size, with a perfect fitting lid. Can't beat the stainless for a bigger cooking pot, just scrub it with anything (grass and gravel!) and it's like new.

I do agree on the pegs... I find round/pin pegs useless in most grounds. For a quick pitch and not having to get up in the night to re-peg, I'm very happy with the still-very-light Y pegs. I suppose 10 is quite a lot, but you could maybe just use the pins for some of the less-essential points?

Interesting thread.
I think titanium is a bit of a mixed bag regarding saving weight. Titanium is actually heavier than aluminium of the same size. Its a great lightweight substitute for steel but not always for aluminium. Some titanium cups and cooking items are heavier than the cheap plastic stuff but we seem to desire them anyway. Those needle pegs that Typon mentions are virtually worthless and almost always have to be replaced with bigger ones.  For many years I used a cheap aluminium saucepan bought from poundstretcher which actually weighed the same as a rather more expensive snowpeak titanium pot of similar capacity. My favourite way to save weight is simply to leave stuff at home, and its free!

Fred

[whoRya]

Alpkit are currently selling titanium sporks for £2.40. Only 12g but the purchase lacks the rewarding feeling of spending over the odds for something that you dont really need.Thanks to Oisin for the tip about the sale.

Fred

If it makes you feel better Fred, the minimum spend is £4.  Therefore can pay £4 for a £2.40 item and feelings of paying over the odds are restored.

Taking a good dump before leaving home should save everyone a bit too!

There is nothing like the feeling of heading for an overnighter knowing that nature has already taken its course.

[Fred]

I wonder if I should buy a bunch of spoons and use them as tent pegs!

fred

[whoRya]

I ordered one of the long handles ones.  I'll review its peg-suitability after the next windy summit camp.

[twentyclicks]

I thought aluminium had been found to be entirely safe for cookware?

You could be right: I'm probably going off an in-built feeling based on 10yr old news.
It clearly hasn't been outright deemed unsafe or they wouldn't be allowed to sell it...and the camping argument would be that it's used rarely enough to have no real affect.

[RedLeader]

It was my understanding that there was a scare over people who had died from Alzheimers having high concentrations of aluminium in their brains but that the link between that and cookware had been discredited and another cause had been identified.

http://alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=99

Personally I Love aluminium, it's tough enough, light, transfers heat well and is pretty easy to clean.

I thought aluminium had been found to be entirely safe for cookware?

You could be right: I'm probably going off an in-built feeling based on 10yr old news.
It clearly hasn't been outright deemed unsafe or they wouldn't be allowed to sell it...and the camping argument would be that it's used rarely enough to have no real affect.

[twentyclicks]

Well, I shall be open to try it again if the need arises for new cookware.

[Fred]

I think that the aluminium issue is a bit of a grey area. There seem to be confliciting opinions on the net regarding it but it probably does no harm to be cautious and reduce your exposure to it. Its widely used in deoderants, food additives and medications anyway. As I see it, I only cook in aluminium pots occasionally so it probably doesnt effect my exposure very much.

fred

[Rumblebum]

I ordered one of the long handles ones.  I'll review its peg-suitability after the next windy summit camp.

I hope you ordered me one as well, me old mucker. 

[Oisín]

Off off topic.. how did you manage to get a hunka? Alpkit still don't have them in stock?

[twentyclicks]

Yeah the material itself will be waterproof. The new TX-direct DWR is so good, I'm sure it would have the bag as new, even with no prior coating.

Bargain!

[twentyclicks]

Yeah, it is rather larger. I'd probably stick at least half a bottle in. It's a few quids worth but it needs blasted. Not sure if there's a slow cycle or way to pause the machine before the rinse to let it seep longer?

[whoRya]

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