Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Username: Password:

Follow NI-Wild

Pages: 1 [2]

Author Topic: Gondola proposal for the Mournes  (Read 14855 times)

whoRya

  • Has Camped With NI-Wild
  • Hero Poster
  • ******
  • Karma: 165
  • Posts: 1798
Re: Gondola proposal for the Mournes
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2012 »
Quote from: LennyJ1 on March 27, 2012

Hang on there, Why cant we allow others tosuch place of beauty? Think  about people who are disablled?
[/quote]

Quote from: TypoOn on March 27, 2012
Well I could have as easily used going to the cinema, a concert or a workplace or even a college in ballymena. By your reckoning they couldn't get in before so they won't miss a movie, band, being employed or getting educated.

I don't know enough about all the factors that are involved with the various improvements that have been discussed on here recently to get involved but your last sentence prompted me.

Are you arguing that anywhere that is currently inaccessible to some people should be made accessible? 

I think open access to basic goods and services goes without saying. To try to link Oisin's views on a specific issue regarding development on a mountainside, to that of access to the places you mentioned seems to have missed the point being made.
Logged
"Not all those who wander are lost."

whoRya

  • Has Camped With NI-Wild
  • Hero Poster
  • ******
  • Karma: 165
  • Posts: 1798
Re: Gondola proposal for the Mournes
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2012 »
Quote from: LennyJ1 on March 27, 2012
Never did the Cairngorms any harm having the ptarmigan.
Do you mean the funicular specifically?  It replaced chairlifts that were already there and it doesn't permit access to the mountain* unless you are skiing.

*unless you are on their guided tour. 

Is it really comparable to use ski resorts in Scotland as an example when talking about mountains in NI?
Logged
"Not all those who wander are lost."

LennyJ1

  • Has Camped With NI-Wild
  • Hero Poster
  • ******
  • Karma: 199
  • Posts: 2168
  • Has climbed with NI-Wild
    • Outdoor Gear UK
Re: Gondola proposal for the Mournes
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2012 »
Quote from: whoRya on March 27, 2012
Quote from: LennyJ1 on March 27, 2012
Never did the Cairngorms any harm having the ptarmigan.
Do you mean the funicular specifically?  It replaced chairlifts that were already there and it doesn't permit access to the mountain* unless you are skiing.

*unless you are on their guided tour. 

Is it really comparable to use ski resorts in Scotland as an example when talking about mountains in NI?

The ptarmigan is not atthe top it is about 300 from the summit which is whats planned here. also yes the train did replace old chair lifts that where not always there (They had to be put up once.)
Logged
No one goes inside to clear their head

Wolf_Larson

  • Has Camped With NI-Wild
  • Hero Poster
  • ******
  • Karma: 37
  • Posts: 1442
  • Adventure
Re: Gondola proposal for the Mournes
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2012 »
I'd like the Mournes to be covered in natural forest as they were thousands of years ago, but many would object to that. Man has already abused or used the landscape

I would not use it.

Agreed again.

Regards Dave
Logged
The core of mans' spirit comes from new experiences.

LandyLiam

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Poster
  • *****
  • Karma: 166
  • Posts: 3825
    • Team BLRC
Re: Gondola proposal for the Mournes
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2012 »
Quote
Liam looks like your idea has been noted..



Logged
think outside, no box required

Oisín

  • Has climbed with NI Wild
  • Hero Poster
  • ******
  • Karma: 107
  • Posts: 856
    • Oisin's Flickr
Re: Gondola proposal for the Mournes
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2012 »
Quote from: TypoOn on March 27, 2012
I'm not arguing that. I was pointing out that Oisin stated in response to Lenny's mention of disabled ppl that they won't miss what they dont have( I found his rather crass), well they didn't have access ( or easy access) to the things I mentioned in many cases but they sure as hell missed it.

If you actually read what I said I never mentioned disabled people not missing what they collectively dont have.

Quote
Its not something that is being took away, it hasnt been there before. What you dont have you dont miss.

I didnt say "What disabled people dont have they dont miss" did I? It was a simple phrase to reinforce the point that I dont believe it is a necessary build, and the fact that we dont have it at the minute means that we don't miss it now, do we? It was a separate statement relating to EVERYONE, no matter what colour or creed. Had I of been wanting to (which I never would) single out someone with a disability I would have included the phrase in the same paragraph, and not at the end of a comment.

I never intended to offend or insult anyone who is disabled and or has family or knows of people who are disabled. It wasnt me that brought the idea of disability into the equation, and I didnt mean for people to get so wound up about it.

A simple mis-read and not in anyway, shape or form a comment saying that we should take away all the ease of access ramps that lead into buildings and throw them away, as I feel has been made out.

Oisin.
Logged
It is not about being the fastest, the strongest or the biggest. It is about being ourselves - Kilian Jornet

Pages: 1 [2]
« previous next »
 

Bottom Sponsor

Recent Topics

A comment of appreciation by Rugged Track [November 04, 2024]
Lough Shannagh by Scribble [March 22, 2023]
Where has everyone gone? by Glenn B [March 02, 2023]
Hello 👋🏻 by RedLeader [March 13, 2022]
Overnighter on 21st August by Wolf_Larson [November 02, 2021]
crabbing by Glenn B [July 19, 2021]
Slieive Binnian Hike by Rugged Track [November 06, 2020]
Silent Valley by Binnianboy [June 28, 2020]
Is it safe... by Rugged Track [June 02, 2020]
You've got a mention... by NorthernSky [December 12, 2019]
Hen Mountain Wild Camp by Rugged Track [November 28, 2019]
Happy Valley by Binnianboy [September 30, 2019]