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Title: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Kirth on January 10, 2010
Just wondering what you guys would use as a back pack for a day walk? Looking into getting one, but there is so many.

Also is there a must have list of items to put in it?

Cheers
Kirth
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: RedLeader on January 10, 2010
If it's just for day walks then any decent backback will be fine. Just try a few on and see how they feel. I use a Berghaus Freeflow for days out but it can be a pain to pack because of the airflow system.

As for what to put in it everyone has their own ideas. I usually just carry either a flask or cooking system, drinks, waterproofs, fleece, chocolate/snacks and probably a bivi bag and first aid kit for emergencies.
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Celt_Ginger on January 10, 2010
Karrimore sabre 45 ltr. You can attach additional 10 ltr pockets to either side taking it up to 65 ltr capicity if needed (good for winter camp outs) I would also often use a canvas day sack when going into the woods. It's a better pack around a fire as sparks won't melt a hole in it.
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Kirth on January 10, 2010
Was looking at this one at Cotswold, and its in the Sale, And I love a bargain:-

https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/webpoint/webpoint.cfm?bhcp=1&FUSEACTION=main&SHOWMESSAGE=0&GOTOLOCATION=0&MENUSTATE=N&originalReferrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cotswoldoutdoor.com%2F#app=7491&2919-counter=2&2919-selectedMenuVsIndex=1&2919-idGroup2=38&2919-selectedMenuAccIndex=0&2919-tag=false&2919-group1=Backpacks%20%26%20Rucksacks&2919-selectedMenuLstIndex=-1&2919-selectedMenuLstIndex2=2&2919-selectedMenuLstIndex3=-1&2919-idGroup1=12&2919-selectedIndex=5&2919-idBrand=-1&2919-group2=Daypacks (https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/webpoint/webpoint.cfm?bhcp=1&FUSEACTION=main&SHOWMESSAGE=0&GOTOLOCATION=0&MENUSTATE=N&originalReferrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cotswoldoutdoor.com%2F#app=7491&2919-counter=2&2919-selectedMenuVsIndex=1&2919-idGroup2=38&2919-selectedMenuAccIndex=0&2919-tag=false&2919-group1=Backpacks%20%26%20Rucksacks&2919-selectedMenuLstIndex=-1&2919-selectedMenuLstIndex2=2&2919-selectedMenuLstIndex3=-1&2919-idGroup1=12&2919-selectedIndex=5&2919-idBrand=-1&2919-group2=Daypacks)
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Matthew on January 10, 2010
I ordered this from America a month of so ago. It's a great wee pack and if you turn it inside out it doubles as a compression sack. It's a flash 18 form REI

(http://media.rei.com/media/dd/99b5d771-cc35-49cb-81d5-9be226334c46.jpg)

http://www.rei.com/product/778466 (http://www.rei.com/product/778466)

Stuff for a day in the hills for me would be waterproofs, pot, stove packed inside the pot, small fuel bottle which fits inside a cup, two packets of super noodles, 2 sachets of instant coffee borrowed from ikea, small tube of condensed milk, a camel back, small first aid kit and thats prob me. I am bound to have left something out!
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Paul on January 10, 2010
for a day out, i have a big green coat which has really really deep pockets!!! Only joking, i have a sabre45 like CG its the only rucksack i have. For carrying just a few things i just take off the side pouches and tighten the straps at the side this compresses it well.
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: chris on January 11, 2010
all packs are pretty much the same, How many different ways can you make something to hold things! Its down to personal pref more than anything. A few tips would be If you find that your prone to sweating while walking or carrying a pack look at air flow system ones. They wont stop you sweating but it'll help a bit. Try it on in the shop, try and get at least well padded straps if not hip belt aswell. and side pouches for easy access to water bottle are a must (for me anyway!). If you going to be taking your camera a large padded lid pocket might be an advantage for easy access and you can get designated camera bag rucksacks that are designed for cameras first and other things second, might be worth a look.. other than that its pretty much up to yourself.

Things I take for a day in the hills, sigg bottle for water, lunch box with some sarnies, a bannana, chocolate bar and usually something like ribenna, A pack of jelly babies water proof coat, hat, gloves, camera.
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Kirth on January 11, 2010
I bought this, got it for 49 quid:-

http://www.johnlewis.com/56100/Style.aspx

Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: chris on January 11, 2010
looks good mate, TNF make a good product so I'm sure you'll not be disapointed, and for 49quid you cant go wrong!
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Paul on January 11, 2010
all packs are pretty much the same, How many different ways can you make something to hold things! Its down to personal pref more than anything. A few tips would be If you find that your prone to sweating while walking or carrying a pack look at air flow system ones. They wont stop you sweating but it'll help a bit. Try it on in the shop, try and get at least well padded straps if not hip belt aswell. and side pouches for easy access to water bottle are a must (for me anyway!). If you going to be taking your camera a large padded lid pocket might be an advantage for easy access and you can get designated camera bag rucksacks that are designed for cameras first and other things second, might be worth a look.. other than that its pretty much up to yourself.

Things I take for a day in the hills, sigg bottle for water, lunch box with some sarnies, a bannana, chocolate bar and usually something like ribenna, A pack of jelly babies water proof coat, hat, gloves, camera.



And depending what the weather is like maybe even a set of snow shoes or skis ehh Chris? LOL
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: chris on January 11, 2010
your not wrong paul! we cudda done with them on the way up the hill, we actually had to crawl bits of it because we were sinking waist deep into the snow!
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Paul on January 11, 2010
That sounds class, pity i missed it. I look forward to seeing the picts mate!
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: ulsterwalker on January 11, 2010
That TNF 30 litre sack is 1590g  :o it needs to go on a diet! Good price though!

The most important thing for me is accessing things that I need on the go without having to take the pack off. For this reason I like a pack to have hip pockets (once you've had them you'll be forever looking for them), and side pockets for water bottles or hat and gloves. I usually have an OMM chest pouch on as well within which I keep my DSLR. Between these I can carry my map compass food camera torch batteries, pretty much anything I need on the go.

A day out on the hills = small daysack + 500ml water + (sarnies+crisps+choco bar) + (map+compass) + (down vest+sweat-tex jacket+hat+gloves) + camera
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: 666_pack on January 12, 2010
your not wrong paul! we cudda done with them on the way up the hill, we actually had to crawl bits of it because we were sinking waist deep into the snow!

or a team of huskies ;D

Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: 666_pack on January 12, 2010
I ordered this from America a month of so ago. It's a great wee pack and if you turn it inside out it doubles as a compression sack. It's a flash 18 form REI

(http://media.rei.com/media/dd/99b5d771-cc35-49cb-81d5-9be226334c46.jpg)

http://www.rei.com/product/778466 (http://www.rei.com/product/778466)

Stuff for a day in the hills for me would be waterproofs, pot, stove packed inside the pot, small fuel bottle which fits inside a cup, two packets of super noodles, 2 sachets of instant coffee borrowed from ikea, small tube of condensed milk, a camel back, small first aid kit and thats prob me. I am bound to have left something out!


I was looking at something like that from alpkit. Look quite handy

(http://www.alpkit.com/shop/images/pi_16379.jpeg)

Product summary
Features
Pouch for hydration unit (450mm long by 200mm wide bladder)
Roll-top waterproof closure
Removeable padded back
Taped waterproof seams
Duraflex buckle and toggle closure
Twin mesh side pocket (will fit std cycle water bottle and smaller Siggs)
Elasticated accessory cord
 
Specification
Material: Taslan TPU nylon
Volume: 20 Litres
Diameter: 21cm
Height: (rolled and secured) 48cm
Weight Total: 620g
Back Pad: 90g
Minimum Weight: 530g
 
£18


http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16379&category_id=293
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: chris on January 26, 2010
I bought the terra 30 a few days after with put realising it was the one you had purchased. Must say I'm very impressed I love the padding on the straps which is a must for me because I always seem to suffer a few days after where they have been sitting but not with this sack. Got everything I needed for an overnighter in it aswell, I reckon I could get a few nights using it if I was careful what food I took.
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Kirth on January 26, 2010
I used mine for the first time on Sunday and was very impressed,  put a bladder in mine an slipped a survival bag in there too. Kept my water proofs in the bottom bit.

Very comfortable.
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: Spark on January 26, 2010
Well this wont suprise some but the OMM packs get my vote every time, http://www.theomm.com/products/packs.html

musts for the hills even for a short day trip are first aid kit, wistle, bivvy bag, map of the area, compass, food & fluid, water proof top and bottoms, spare dry top. mobile phone, after that its up to you...!!

http://www.ratracestore.com/store/info_1618.html

http://www.ratracestore.com/store/info_720.html

 
Title: Re: Back Pack / Day Sack
Post by: ulsterwalker on January 26, 2010
The Alpkit gourdon's aint too bad and good for the price, but they're pretty minimilist.
I used a 20L one for the MMM, and just about fitted all I needed in it, not the most comfortable thing I've used but did the job. Unless using only as a daysack, I'd say get the bigger ones.

OMM packs are good, and the 3 litre chest pouch is a top little edition to keep things close to hand. My DSLR lives there if I have it with me, otherwise its full of sweeties and things that would usually clog my trouser pockets.