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Title: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: RedLeader on December 10, 2013
I was looking at getting a Lowrance GPS from Mapyx because I use their desktop software and maps loads but I see too many bad reviews. Now I'm thinking a Satmap Active 10 might be a better idea. They're doing the bike version bundled with a charging kit for £225 which includes a 1/3 off maps voucher. The NI 1:50k & 1:25k specified areas maps are £80 but with the 1/3 off it brings it all down to the same price as the Lowrance for which I already own the maps.

I have been using a Garmin Etrex HCX with Talkytoaster maps for a few years but the screen is just too small and it's a very fiddly device.

Does anyone have any experience of this GPS unit or any advice in general?
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: LandyLiam on December 10, 2013
I have had a little play with a satmap active 10 while sitting in the office, looks good, but i'm still quite fond of my etrex & 1:50k talkytoaster maps (but still need the 1:25k paper map for the detailed navigation). I'll see if I can borrow the satmap for a day in the hills to get a better feel for it.
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: RedLeader on December 11, 2013
What do the Mountain Rescue chaps use? That's always a good indicator.

I have an Etrex too and I've always been fond of it. But it's very fiddly to use (only has 4 buttons) and the screen size is very small. Though the single thing really driving an upgrade is I want proper portable OS mapping. It's the nerd in me ;)

I have had a little play with a satmap active 10 while sitting in the office, looks good, but i'm still quite fond of my etrex & 1:50k talkytoaster maps (but still need the 1:25k paper map for the detailed navigation). I'll see if I can borrow the satmap for a day in the hills to get a better feel for it.
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Eamonn on December 11, 2013
I use viewranger. It's a great app.
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: RedLeader on December 11, 2013
What sort of price are the maps for Viewranger? I've never been totally happy using the phone for GPS. Always wary of battery power or damaging the thing.

I use viewranger. It's a great app.
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Eamonn on December 11, 2013
The mournes map 1: 25 k is £10 which I think is a good price considering how  much I use it. Battery life can be a problem, I make sure I've a full charge by charging my phone in the car on the way too the mountains, also turning on aeroplane mode can maximise your battery life. I also carry a portable battery charger if I'm going to be out all day or camping.
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: RedLeader on December 11, 2013
I suppose if you're using it for occasional navigation where you're only bringing it out occasionally then it probably wouldn't be an issue. One of my main uses for a GPS is as a route recorder so I can import into Mapyx at home and see exactly where I was.

£10 for the Mournes isn't bad. Mapyx 1:25k for the Mournes is £14.99.

The mournes map 1: 25 k is £10 which I think is a good price considering how  much I use it. Battery life can be a problem, I make sure I've a full charge by charging my phone in the car on the way too the mountains, also turning on aeroplane mode can maximise your battery life. I also carry a portable battery charger if I'm going to be out all day or camping.
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Dowser on December 11, 2013
I use viewranger. It's a great app.

This may be a stupid question but, if I was using my phone for navigation in the mournes do you need a network signal or does the GPS function in the phone work independently from the network.

I have an iPhone 4s on Orange (EE) and once I leave the carpark I never have a signal  >:(
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: RedLeader on December 11, 2013
You get a GPS signal independently of mobile reception, GPS is coming from satellites. If you have mapping software where the maps are installed on the phone (and they don't have to be downloaded from the internet, like Google maps) then you don't need any type of cell reception at all.


I use viewranger. It's a great app.

This may be a stupid question but, if I was using my phone for navigation in the mournes do you need a network signal or does the GPS function in the phone work independently from the network.

I have an iPhone 4s on Orange (EE) and once I leave the carpark I never have a signal  >:(
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: LandyLiam on December 11, 2013
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What do the Mountain Rescue chaps use? That's always a good indicator.

paper map & compass  ;)
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: RedLeader on December 11, 2013
That figures, safe and reliable :)

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What do the Mountain Rescue chaps use? That's always a good indicator.

paper map & compass  ;)
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Dowser on December 11, 2013
You get a GPS signal independently of mobile reception, GPS is coming from satellites. If you have mapping software where the maps are installed on the phone (and they don't have to be downloaded from the internet, like Google maps) then you don't need any type of cell reception at all.


I use viewranger. It's a great app.

This may be a stupid question but, if I was using my phone for navigation in the mournes do you need a network signal or does the GPS function in the phone work independently from the network.

I have an iPhone 4s on Orange (EE) and once I leave the carpark I never have a signal  >:(

Ohhhh, that's my mountain satnav needs sorted then  :)  One less device to carry and cheap as chips!!!
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Spud on December 11, 2013
I second the shout for the viewranger, its a great wee app!
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: phil_b on December 11, 2013
I use Viewranger too, free app and the Mournes map for £10. I have also bought a couple of individual map tiles for a few pence each, 2 tiles covered Rathlin Island and 2 covered Glenveagh in Donegal. I always stick an old  fullycharged mobile in my bag in case i run out of battery power while using the gps but it has lasted more than the 9.5 hours taken to do the mourne wall. I have never found any reliability issues and it seems fairly accurate.
Routes walked and new routes planned can be done on a laptop or tablet and then synced between devices so you can easily see where you have been or plot new walks on a big screen.

Mourne wall route
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7316/9541488382_9b52c79cd3_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/philblair/9541488382/)
Screenshot_2013-08-18-20-40-19 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/philblair/9541488382/) by philip blair2011 (http://www.flickr.com/people/philblair/), on Flickr

Mourne wall altitude
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3806/9541488906_d98dd89cde_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/philblair/9541488906/)

A microlite flight i did
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Screenshot_2013-08-22-21-24-45 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/philblair/9573008528/) by philip blair2011 (http://www.flickr.com/people/philblair/), on Flickr
Screenshot_2013-08-18-20-39-14 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/philblair/9541488906/) by philip blair2011 (http://www.flickr.com/people/philblair/), on Flickr

Rathlin Island inc the ferry over

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/11037712725_17c1f20f2a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/philblair/11037712725/)
1385158378895 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/philblair/11037712725/) by philip blair2011 (http://www.flickr.com/people/philblair/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Dowser on December 11, 2013
I use Viewranger too, free app and the Mournes map for £10. I have also bought a couple of individual map tiles for a few pence each, 2 tiles covered Rathlin Island and 2 covered Glenveagh in Donegal. I always stick an old  fullycharged mobile in my bag in case i run out of battery power while using the gps but it has lasted more than the 9.5 hours taken to do the mourne wall. I have never found any reliability issues and it seems fairly accurate.
Routes walked and new routes planned can be done on a laptop or tablet and then synced between devices so you can easily see where you have been or plot new walks on a big screen.

That's a great wee write-up Phil_B

When I went to download Viewranger earlier from the App Store there were two versions; Free App and one for £9.99.  What's the difference or is the £9.99 one there for those that don't know any better?

I've downloaded the free one for now so do I just buy the Mourne Map and that's me all sorted or will there be a load of features missing by using the Free App? 

I don't want to spend £9.99 if I don't need too... I could get a KFC Bucket for that  ;)
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: phil_b on December 11, 2013
Im using the free app.  When you download the map you can download it for free a couple of times for different devices.
Any questions just shout.

Phil
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Spud on December 11, 2013
Aye I'm using the free one too and bought the mourne map.
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Dowser on December 11, 2013
Aye I'm using the free one too and bought the mourne map.

Free App and KFC Bargain bucket it is then.

Finger lickin' Good  :D
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Spud on December 11, 2013
Aye I'm using the free one too and bought the mourne map.

Free App and KFC Bargain bucket it is then.

Finger lickin' Good  :D

 ;D
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Eamonn on December 11, 2013
It was free for me, but I'm on android. Make sure you register on line too. Plus it has a feature called buddybeacon so someone at home could watch and track your position.
Title: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: clairebear on December 12, 2013
This is why I love ni wild. Just downloaded free version.  I use strava when running but this will be useful when needing navigation in the hills.  Strava great for recording. Distances etc but was never really sure what Craic was with this app, ie was it worth it. Seems it is.  Will try it out sat.  I also carry a mobile charger as get around 9ish hours out of my I phone when using strava.  Just as a back up really.
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Dowser on December 12, 2013
This is why I love ni wild. Just downloaded free version.  I use strava when running but this will be useful when needing navigation in the hills.  Strava great for recording. Distances etc but was never really sure what Craic was with this app, ie was it worth it. Seems it is.  Will try it out sat.  I also carry a mobile charger as get around 9ish hours out of my I phone when using strava.  Just as a back up really.

I was just chatting to Redleader on Skype and said exactly the same thing.  24hrs ago there was no way I could afford SatNav for the mountains.  A bit of chat on here and I have downloaded the free App and bought the £9.99 OS Activity map of the Mournes and it looks totally awesome.

User Manual can be found here so you can see all the features that are available: http://www.viewranger.com/manuals/ViewRanger_iPhone_manual.pdf
Title: Re: Satmap Active 10 GPS
Post by: Windy on March 31, 2014
I like the paper and compass but use MICoach for data .Free app for Androids

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