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Outdoor Activities => Northern Ireland Camping and Bushcraft => Topic started by: Hound of Ulster on August 06, 2009

Title: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Hound of Ulster on August 06, 2009
Just read this on a different forum, and whilst good old Stormont would deal with our issues and rights I thought it probably worth supporting if only to get the ideas raised with government.

Just had my attention drawn to this petition: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/WildCampingCRoW/ and figured there would probably be a few more people here who would like to sign it.

The petition aims to extend the Countryside and Rights of Way act 2000 to include areas where wild camping and bushcraft may be practiced. The following information is given by the petition creator:

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The freedom to roam, or everyman's right is the general public's right to access certain public or privately owned land for recreation and exercise. While a Swedish style "Allmansrätten" may not be practical here in the UK there is no public wilderness where wild camping is allowed, let alone camp fires. The argument of damage to the countryside by wild camping holds little weight when much of our natural wilderness has been handed over to honeypot style tourism and/or agricultural and forestry purposes. I ask the Prime Minister to add extend the CRoW act to include areas where wild camping and campfires can be practiced on a “Do not disturb, do not destroy” basis and that some of these sites be within our National Park boundaries. This is important for recreational purposes and to keep in touch with the methods practiced by our ancestors which minimise harm to the natural world.
Slightly concerned that the text states that:
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here in the UK there is no public wilderness where wild camping is allowed
and clearly wild camping IS allowed in Scotland  Still figure there is no harm in signing though to hopefully improve access in England, Wales and N Ireland.
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: kendogbaggio on August 06, 2009
Signed! ;)
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Hunter on August 26, 2009
Yip me 2!
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Hound of Ulster on August 26, 2009
I can't believe only 2 people sofar have signed this petition :(...... thanks to both of you, I thought it might have raised more of a discussion.

Maybe thats politics for you. >:(

Hound.

Where are all the Bushcraft guys :-X
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: DryBag on August 26, 2009
they'll never allow it.
it's hard enough to prosecute the spides for setting fire to stuff without giving their lawyers a good excuse.
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Hound of Ulster on August 26, 2009
Maybe so drybag, but worth getting the subject talked about and taken seriously.

Thanks for you input. :)
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Mouldsy on August 26, 2009
Sorry for the delay mate, just read the post.
Signed.
Davy.
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: 666_pack on August 26, 2009
done. ;D
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: RedLeader on August 26, 2009
I have too. Can't see it making much difference - I don't think the Gov ever listen to the online petitions - it's just spin.
Still, you have to make yourself heard.
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Wolf_Larson on August 26, 2009
Freedom as william wallace would say !!!!!!!!   signned !!!
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: DryBag on August 27, 2009
I'm signatory number 28.

I've signed a few of those petitions in the past and they always come back with some long-winded excuse why nothing can change.

They didn't even take us seriously when we petitioned them to make Jeremy Clarkson Prime Minister!  :-\
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Cardnim on August 27, 2009
Im not sure this would actually make a difference for Northern Ireland.

Unlike England and Scotland we have no "right to roam" possibilities.
This is because there is no public land in the North.
Its all owned by someone (yep, true!) and therefore you cant technically go onto it unless you have permission

Thats what I thought was the case anyways?  ???
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: luresalive on September 02, 2009
signed
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Wolf_Larson on September 11, 2009
Come on members there should be at least a 100 signned.  ::)
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Cardnim on September 14, 2009
Is there any point signing it?
It does us no good whatsoever - we have no public right to roam land!   :-\
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: indianian on September 14, 2009
why rock the boat, signing the petition will help the folks in England and Wales, and us only when we visit there,  we dont seem to have too much of a  problem with access in Northern Ireland, and as long as we all act responsable  and follow the leave no trace policy that would remain,  but we only have to look at the mess that gets left behind at some of the tracks and camping areas in the Mourns and at the island on Lough Neigh, the behaviour of some people useing these areas and facilities, to see how our access may be threatened,  perhaps a better approach to our Government at Stormont is to get them to finance and support an Education programme in conservation and access to our youth but for anything to work we need the support from the land owners..
Title: Re: Petition to extend CRoW Act 2000 to allow Wild Camping and Bushcraft
Post by: Wolf_Larson on September 14, 2009
All we can do is try to be heard.

Even no the gangsters in suits just muffle us out with there power and money.

So lets all not vote cause it is a joke, while they puff on are smoke (TAXES), laughing at us cause we have no hope when we vote.