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Title: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MikeD on September 29, 2010
Hi Guys,

My last pair of 'mountain' boots are dead.

Im looking to buy a pair this week, I think I'll give the trainer rather then boot thing a go.  Can anyone recommend me a decent pair they've actually tried? 

Thanks
Mike

ps And I am looking to buy a decent walking pole \ basher pole for my tarp - and recommendations here appreciated too.
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: chris on September 29, 2010
go try some on, best shoe is the one that fits! I had Inov-8's and loved them. Less cushioning than a normal shoe so you get a better feel for the ground. other than that meindl are very good and so are merrell. the only real decision  you have to make is g-tex lined or not.
As for walking poles leki are the market leaders and supposed to be the best.
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MikeD on September 29, 2010
good stuff, hopefully i'll get out to buy them tomorrow or friday, just need to be a little informed, so thanks Chris.
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: Bic on September 29, 2010
Fiizan Compact Trekking poles....just bought these pair of Poles from Tiso,s, have included a link to a review, can,t fault them for the money, took them for a walk Sunday last... light and easy to walk with ..... haven,t used them with a tarp setup with the exception of setting Tarp up in the back garden, again solid can,t fault them......anyhow good hunting.... heres the link:     http://www.petesy.co.uk/fizan-compact-ultralite-trekking-poles/
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: suspectmonkey on September 30, 2010
If your looking to try on Inov-8 then both Jackson Sports and Up & Running in Belfast keep a good stock.  I was surprised with the amount of trail running shoes Up & Running kept as I assumed they would all be geared towards pounding the miles on tarmac!

Mind you, the price of Inov-8's seem to have gone up.  When I looked at them earlier in the year they seemed to be going for around £60-65, but now they all seem to be around the £70-75 mark for the same shoes.  I know its not much, but I do often wonder how what are essentially a pair of trainers can cost nearly the same amount as a pair of Goretex boots.

As for walking poles, I honestly can't fault the Trekmates pair I've got.  I dont know if I would fancy using a more expensive walking pole for pitching a tarp with, as they do seem to get a bit of a hard time if its windy.  If I was looking to blow some money on a good pair though then the Black Diamonds look the ticket and I prefer the trigger/flick lock system to a screw lock. 
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MG1 on September 30, 2010
I use the salomon speedcross 2 trail shoes the grip on them is first class and very comfortable.

http://www.fieldandtrek.com/salomon-speed-cross-2-187038?src=google (http://www.fieldandtrek.com/salomon-speed-cross-2-187038?src=google)
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: paulocon on September 30, 2010
Another vote here for Inov-8's. I regularly use them for hill walking as well as for running and find them great.

Obviously, the terrain is a big consideration - happily use the Inov-8's in the Mournes but if heading for the big lumps of mud that are the Wicklow Mountains, I leave them at home.

The other boot I've used recently is Meindl Respond XCR, billed as a multi-terrain shoe and it does exactly what it says on the tin!

One thing about the Inov-8's is that you need to break them in - tend to be tough on the ankles initially and you are using different muscles that with convential boots..
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: Matthew on September 30, 2010
I use the salomon speedcross 2 trail shoes the grip on them is first class and very comfortable.

http://www.fieldandtrek.com/salomon-speed-cross-2-187038?src=google (http://www.fieldandtrek.com/salomon-speed-cross-2-187038?src=google)


i could not agree more, i have them in the fetching green and thay are great
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: brendanmcc on October 01, 2010
Can't comment on trail shoes as a dodgy ankle would prohibit any attempt to walk in anything but a boot.

Regarding poles- avoid craghoppers!

I bought them in a deal in cotswold (£30 for 2) and broke the strap off 1 on my first outing and and again on the replacement on my second outing.  (which happened to be the MMM- not very convenient!).

Fair enough I gave them a fair bit of abuse over the 2 hikes but nothing that I wouldn't have expected them to cope with.
Lost all 3 rubber ends off the 3 poles I used as well.

It seems that you pretty much get what you pay for with walking poles.#

I'll be trying t get a refund for my poles and replacing with 1 Leki in the mean time.
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MikeD on October 01, 2010
Thanks guys, I'm wondering if the salomon speedcross 2 trail shoes are waterproof, or whether im expecting too much to expect trail shoes to be waterproof ?
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MikeD on October 01, 2010
Lots of the shoes mentioned are on ebay too - which is handy....
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: suspectmonkey on October 01, 2010
Thanks guys, I'm wondering if the salomon speedcross 2 trail shoes are waterproof, or whether im expecting too much to expect trail shoes to be waterproof ?

From what I've heard, waterproof trail shoes aren't the way to go.  Its basically accepted that when you wear trail shoes there is a good chance you're feet will get wet.  If you have waterproof lined trail shoes then you will have a job getting them dried out again.  Non-waterproof shoes don't have that problem as the water can easily escape, and as they are much more breathable then they dry quicker.  Thats the theory anyway ;)
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MikeD on October 01, 2010
Right Suspect, I see, can't help but think, its a bad idea to have non-waterproof shoes.

My boots started leaking, and there is nothing worse then walking through grass (just grass) and getting wet feet for the rest of the day, most depressing in fact.
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: chris on October 01, 2010
Suspect is right. Shoes with a membrane (gtex, event, Omni-tech etc) work well in theory i.e they keep water out. Problem is they also keep water in!
If you go down the trail shoes route then you need to get into the fast and light mindset. I found the best combo is trail shoes and as thin a sock as you can find. That way when you do get your feet wet, your own body heat pretty much dries them out. Once you get used to wearing them combined with a bit of careful foot work to avoid obvious wet bits you'll be sorted.
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MikeD on October 01, 2010
cant help but chuckle, but it sounds like a plan! Light running shoes, thin socks, is nothing sacred !
As long as I have someone to blame, I,ll do it!
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: chris on October 12, 2010
Did you get anything in the end then mike?
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MikeD on October 12, 2010
I think I'll have to get them some time in the next week - i think my long awaited holiday plans are coming close to happening..... And I'll defo need broken in shoes for then - which is very soon - fingers crossed!

Are you working any late nights this week - i could try to get over?
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: chris on October 12, 2010
On my hols for a fortnight.
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: twentyclicks on October 13, 2010
My Leki's are well bashed but in good nick.  I did have a problem with the twist lock in the cold which resulted in me breaking the bottom of the pole off, but it was replaced under warranty.  They can work loose easily in sub-zero temps apparently and need a regular check - the BD mechanism is better in that regard.

I recently got Inov8 Terrocs.  I normally move quite fast and they certainly dry quickly to 'sweaty sock in a boot' levels.  It is weird at first feeling that chill of water rush in the first time you go into a stream or bog but it pumps out so fast and the ventilation helps evaporate the rest.  Dry socks at camp, but I always did that anyway.  The only thing is that I was up at the weekend and due to my friend being entirely unfit we had a very gentle saunter; and I imagined I may have felt cold had it not been such a dry day as my legs were not pumping warm blood down there.

There are so many types of trail shoes too - I'm quite a barefoot running type and even the Terrocs feel clunky to me and stress my calves running so I may switch to something really light like the X-talon 190.  They're ok for walking.  Everyone's use is different, and at least we are all catered for nowadays!
Title: Re: New Pair of Hill Shoes !
Post by: MikeD on October 25, 2010
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions everyone.

I eventually ended up with the Salomon Speed Cross 2 (£80) from Cotswold......

I think I bought them because they looked the most stylish !  And based on MG's suggestion too.  The soles of them are like football boots with studs (feels a bit like walking on stilts initially)! 

Had them up the cavehill and they were pretty good, though i still was sliding a bit on the muddy trails.  Anyway, hopefully they'll be the ticket !