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Title: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: blokarter on July 21, 2010
Like the title says, I am looking for the names of any publications about the history of the Mourne Wall (or the Mourne Mountains) & where to buy if you know.

If anyone has a book I would like to hear what they think of it too.

I hope this is in the correct section.

Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: surfnscenic on July 21, 2010
There may be quiet a few books about the Mournes however one that I got is:-

"The Mourne Walks" by Paddy Dillon cost £8.

http://www.paddydillon.co.uk/guidebook/the-mournes-walks/

Brief history of the Mournes with 32 walks described in detail with a map, how to get there, the route, what you will or might see on the way plus othe rsnippets of information..  I have found it useful.

The ISBN number is 978-1-84717-141-2 published by The O'Brien Press ltd.

You should be able to pick it up in shops like Cotswold, Tiso, Easons and similar shops.



Happy reading.
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: RedLeader on July 22, 2010
I'm pretty fascinated by the Mourne Wall too - it's quite a feat of effort to have built it. If someone found a book I'd buy it too. The Paddy Dillon book does have plenty of information in it but not much detail about the wall its-self.
Some of the NI-Wild guys have walked it so they could give you a blow by blow painful recount of it :)

Here's a few discussions on the Binnian Tunnel which is also pretty fascinating.
http://www.ni-wild.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=663.0
http://www.ni-wild.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1150.0
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: blokarter on July 22, 2010
Thanks to both of you for the info.
Sounds like what I am after.

It would just be nice to know a bit more of the history of areas as you walk throught them.

I will have a look at this on Saturday....

Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 22, 2010
My dad has a book on the building of the Silent Valley Reservoir.  It's a very old book but if I'm not mistaken it has information on the Mourne Wall as well.  I will take a look for it when I go home and post some more details. 

Going back a few years much of my family were from Bryansford and involved in the construction of the reservoir so its something I've always had an interest in as well.
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: 666_pack on July 22, 2010
MG1 lent me this one and it a great book on the Mournes


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51cjhzPxYRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mountains-Mourne-Celebration-Place-apart/dp/0862818729
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: blokarter on July 22, 2010
Thanks everyone.

Two more books ordered
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: RedLeader on July 22, 2010
I ordered the Mountains of Mourne one. Looks good.

There's quite a good website about it here:
http://www.magic-of-mourne.co.uk/info.htm
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: MG1 on July 23, 2010
Its a good one some amazing pics in it.
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: LandyLiam on July 23, 2010
at the back of the above book it mentions this one

"The Dam Builders - The Story of the Men who Built The Mourne Wall and the Silent Valley Reservoir - W H Carson (Mourne Observer Press, 1974) "

sounds like what your after

i'm popping up to Silent Valley today so i'll look out for it in the shop there
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: blokarter on July 23, 2010
It will be interesting to see if they have it.

Check this out .
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Builders-Story-Silent-Valley-Reservoir/dp/B00332AESU/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1279883994&sr=1-1-fkmr0
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: LandyLiam on July 23, 2010
£150  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: RedLeader on July 23, 2010
Must be some book.

£150  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: blokarter on July 23, 2010
maybe its carved in Granite
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 23, 2010
"The Dam Builders - The Story of the Men who Built The Mourne Wall and the Silent Valley Reservoir - W H Carson (Mourne Observer Press, 1974) "

There is a very, very good chance that this is the book my dad has.  Didn't get a chance to check last night, but now I know its worth £150 I have new found inspiration to look it out ;)  Will see if I can find out a bit more tonight and post up the info!
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 23, 2010
So when I got home I looked out the book we have on the Silent Valley, and it is indeed "The Dam Builders - The story of the men who built the Silent Valley Reservoir" by W. H. Carson.  It was first published in 1981 by Mourne Observer Press, Newcastle, Co. Down and my dad has inscribed the inside cover with his name and the date August 1983.  That was the year I was born incidently.  Thought I would post a small excerpt from the inside sleeve:


Quote
The construction of the Silent Valley reservoir in the Mourne Mountains of County Down is acknowledged by civil engineers throughout the British Isles and abroad to be one of the most remarkable achievements in the history of dam building.

Before the first sod was cut by Lord Carson of Duncairn on 10th October, 1923 a 22 mile long wall of rough granite slabs was cut by hand across the mountains to enclose the catchment area.  Some of the stone-men who toiled for 18 years on this back-breaking job went on to work in the Valley when the wall was finished, and it is the strength of the author's research that he suceeded in tracking down and talking to four of the original mountain wall builders, and 36 of the men who worked on the construction of the reservoir.

Interspersed with fascinating character studies of leading personaliies, and illustrated with a wealth of historic and contemporary photographs, the human story of the men who built the Silent Valley reservoir moves in step with the history of events in the Valley recorded between the years 1923 and 1933.


Indeed, the first chapter of the book is entitled "The building of the mountain wall".  In an appendix there is also a "Roll of the Mourne Wall Builders" with names of men known to have built the Mourne Wall.  There are two Patterson's on the list which I believe are related.  Will have to find out more.

Here is a photo of the jacket sleeve for those interested:


(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/suspectmonkey/Other/Dam_Builders_Cover.jpg)

Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: blokarter on July 23, 2010
Sound very interesting. At 150 notes I doubt I will ever own a copy. Second hand book shops my get a rattle mind you. My two from amazon have been dispatched already.
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: LandyLiam on July 24, 2010
popped into the silent valley vistors centre yesterday, has gone all modern and hi-tech since i was last there but also seems to have lost a lot of information  :'( although was dragging 4 small kids around so may have missed something, there was more info on water conservation than the damn or wall.

didn't see any stuff for sale other than food  :o
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: surfnscenic on July 25, 2010
I was there on June 7th and was disappointed that cafe was not operating and the display exhibition seemed to focus on water treatment rather than on the construction and history of the dam. 

I have a vague recollection of being there many years ago and there was more information and displays about Watertown and how the dam came about.  Maybe I'm wrong though?

It's a shame that the Water Service don't promote the park and visitor centre more as I believe there is and would be much interest locally as well as from visitors from other countries.  I'm told that the lack of facilities is causing tour coaches to drive on to elsewhere rather than remaining at the park.
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: blokarter on July 28, 2010
My books arrived into work this morning.
A bit of reading to be done on my holidays.
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: surfnscenic on August 07, 2012
I've taken a notion to learn more about the Mourne Wall and am wondering if anyone has information on suitable books.
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: paulocon on August 08, 2012
I've walked around the wall on a couple of occasions. Following on from posting an account of it at http://www.walkingandhikingireland.com/?p=980 (http://www.walkingandhikingireland.com/?p=980), I was contacted by a guy who put together a short history of the wall including a history of the Mourne Wall Walk.

I don't have it to hand at the moment but it was published by the Hostel Association of Northern Ireland.

Paddy Dillon's book as mentioned is also well worth a read.

Done the walk again a couple of weeks ago and I'd recommend anyone who is interested in the wall give it a go to get a real appreciation of the scale of the task that was building the wall.
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: whoRya on August 09, 2012
I'd really love to see the wall restored at the sections were it has come down.  Three of them between the Saddle and Donard.  They are mighty looking stones, not even sure you could lift them between two.  Perahps I am just a wuss.  Anyone reckon it is possible to fix or does it require a professional outfit to do the job?
Title: Re: Book on the history of the Mourne Wall
Post by: Wolf_Larson on August 09, 2012
Is this a rare book ???