Topic: Preparedness (Read 20998 times)

RedLeader · « **Reply #15 on:** November 23, 2011 »

This is what I was considering. Just having plenty of tinned/dried food about the place that we would normally eat rather than a cellar filled with 3 years rations. The trouble is when I suggest it to the wife she things I'm nuts.

Quote from: Fred on November 23, 2011

I probably should have mentioned, with regard to food, I simply buy ordinary supermarket preserved food and just use up the oldest first. This way, theres always a standing stockpile on hand if I need it. I have never had the desire to buy specialist long life foods and hide them away.

Fred

dean1970 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 23, 2011 »

I have never read such nonsense in my life.

I think you are all getting a little carried away with yourselves.

You all must be still living in the nuclear 60's. Next thing you will all be building underground bunkers

RedLeader · « **Reply #17 on:** November 23, 2011 »

You may have missed the point, the first post patiently explains why this is not the case.

Quote from: dean1970 on November 23, 2011

I have never read such nonsense in my life.

I think you are all getting a little carried away with yourselves.

You all must be still living in the nuclear 60's. Next thing you will all be building underground bunkers

dean1970 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 23, 2011 »

I have read the posts. Yes someone said they live on an island, which I presume is not Northern Ireland island. That I accept is a real need for stocking supplies for winter in the event the boat cannot get there. But that is real island life.

Living in and around towns and stocking up I do not think is necessary. Firstly, you will not even be able to store enough water for any long period of time. Borewell's need a licence and cost a fortune and are regulated. Rainwater harvesting is fine for flushing toilets etc.

As for food, stores will get food delivered. I can live without fresh bread. The amount of food wasted is a disgrace. People consume, consume, consume. The weight of some people, they could go months without eating.

We do not suffer from severe weather conditions. We are fortunate in that way.

RedLeader · « **Reply #19 on:** November 23, 2011 »

You're still confusing survivalism with preparedness. Having some extra food about in case you can't get out of the house for a few days or keeping emergency supplies in the car in case you get stuck in the snow doesn't seem like nonsense. Certainly I was glad to have thought ahead last year when the water was off for 4 days. No-one's digging wells, just thinking ahead.

Quote from: dean1970 on November 23, 2011

I have read the posts. Yes someone said they live on an island, which I presume is not Northern Ireland island. That I accept is a real need for stocking supplies for winter in the event the boat cannot get there. But that is real island life.

Living in and around towns and stocking up I do not think is necessary. Firstly, you will not even be able to store enough water for any long period of time. Borewell's need a licence and cost a fortune and are regulated. Rainwater harvesting is fine for flushing toilets etc.

As for food, stores will get food delivered. I can live without fresh bread. The amount of food wasted is a disgrace. People consume, consume, consume. The weight of some people, they could go months without eating.

We do not suffer from severe weather conditions. We are fortunate in that way.

Oisín · « **Reply #20 on:** November 23, 2011 »

Quote from: dean1970 on November 23, 2011

I have read the posts. Yes someone said they live on an island, which I presume is not Northern Ireland island. That I accept is a real need for stocking supplies for winter in the event the boat cannot get there. But that is real island life.

Living in and around towns and stocking up I do not think is necessary. Firstly, you will not even be able to store enough water for any long period of time. Borewell's need a licence and cost a fortune and are regulated. Rainwater harvesting is fine for flushing toilets etc.

As for food, stores will get food delivered. I can live without fresh bread. The amount of food wasted is a disgrace. People consume, consume, consume. The weight of some people, they could go months without eating.

We do not suffer from severe weather conditions. We are fortunate in that way.

Islands-
Last time I checked Great Britain consisted of two main islands?

Water-
I think that it is fair to say you could live of 500ml of water a day? (Roughly I'm just estimating) I'm sure I could fit 3 months worth or drinking water in my wardrobe, never mind a house's garage etc. It's only 70 odd bottles of water, and thats worst case scenario.

And I can remember seeing 12 or 18 multipacks in pounland before - So there is, what, £6 to ensure your loved ones dont go thirsty? You can hardly be bad to that.

Weather-
It doesnt need to be severe to disrupt lives, anything below zero^o and there can be frozen pipes, there is an elderly woman without water until someone fixes it..

I think the whole idea of this post is to state that we should take precautions and not be caught out, the same way we bring spare clothes when camping incase our clothes get wet. I feel you have looked at this from the wrong angle, its not preparing for war. Its preparing for the everyday.

surfnscenic · « **Reply #21 on:** November 23, 2011 »

I really like this post, it’s practical, thought provoking and not beyond the realms of possibility/probability. Just looking at last winter is an example of how some simple straightforward measures could help relieve some of the hardship that would otherwise be endured.

It doesn’t take much to knock this place into a state of utter uselessness.
Taking the attitude of people here (and elsewhere?) that it’s someone else’s fault and responsibility then expecting and even demanding someone else to do it for them will be rife again if the winter is similar to last year.

People in other countries where winters are really severe must laugh at our pathetic whining and inability to make even the most simplest preparations:-

Some food and water, relative to the number of mouths and particular requirements,
A means of keeping warm should usual source be disrupted,
Alternative way to cook, even if it’s a lot less than another kitchen cooker,
Car preparation-servicing before it breaks down, some emergency kit-light, rope, shovel, old mats/grit,
Extra clothing in car. Hot filled flask, some snacks.

The normal stuff that is already about the house can be utilised for best effect with a little imagination. Anyone who involved in outdoors activities ought to be of the mindset to be self sufficient anyway.

I will certainly be refining my standby equipment so as make life as comfortable as possible. On a point of helping others, I’ll always lend a hand to someone who tries to help themselves but the person who is dismissive and ridicules others for be prepared, well they can learn by experience.

Spud · « **Reply #22 on:** November 23, 2011 »

good point, well made george!

wee gaz · « **Reply #23 on:** November 23, 2011 »

supplies for a few days !! Better looking at it than for it

RedLeader · « **Reply #24 on:** November 23, 2011 »

Suddenly all Dowser and Matts eulogising about multifuel stoves is starting to make sense. Small gas cans are going to run out quickly but petrol and diesel would be easy to come by

Spud · « **Reply #25 on:** November 23, 2011 »

Quote from: RedLeader on November 23, 2011

Suddenly all Dowser and Matts eulogising about multifuel stoves is starting to make sense. Small gas cans are going to run out quickly but petrol and diesel would be easy to come by

As long as the tankers can get past the zombie hordes red, they would have to go mad max style!!

cerbera147 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 23, 2011 »

Quote from: dean1970 on November 23, 2011

I have never read such nonsense in my life.

I think you are all getting a little carried away with yourselves.

You all must be still living in the nuclear 60's. Next thing you will all be building underground bunkers

Great way to trash a thread

As Redleader said you're confusing survivalism with preparedness. You carry a spare tyre in your car 'just in case' and I'm sure you keep extra fuses / light bulbs in the house 'just in case'.

It's not about Mad Max, Red Dawn nonsense; it's about maintaining your lifestyle when things get crappy. Let's say I have two months worth of food and drink supplies and I've been topping up my electricity and gas so I've got about two months worth. In addition I've been a good saver and have a couple of months worth of salary in the Credit Union.
BANG; me and my missus both lose our jobs

OMG what will we do? Guess what, our preparedness has helped us maintain our lifestyle. We can feed ourselves, keep warm, live etc. It is designed to help you through a rough time. Hopefully you get the point.

I'm sure we've all heard about the ant and the grasshopper. Let's hope you have some kind and generous ants nearby

What's the worst that can happen by some common sense prepping?

Mourneman · « **Reply #27 on:** November 23, 2011 »

Some really good advice mate,my hat of to you,serious,good forward thinking,but i do have to ask you a question.When i was a kid there was always one kid that had easter eggs for months after,were you that kid

LandyLiam · « **Reply #28 on:** November 24, 2011 »

I'd have to put myself in the prepper category, I carry shovel, tools and sleeping bag in car during snow, i've always avoided a fully electric oven, i've one with a gas hob and uses bottled gas, its been invaluable over the many power cuts i've had (longest 3 days). I also keep plenty of candles in the house and a few wind up torches (much safer with the kids). I keep a few containers in the attic in case i need extra water, and i have sterilising tablets in case i have to get it from the river. Also keep a few jerry cans in case it gets mad maxy

I don't store food but if i know of an impending situation (snow/floods/strike/diesase/etc.) i get some extra stuff that i will use eventually anyway. I always fancied getting a wee generator but never quite got round to it, but i do have a caravan so i can be fairly self sufficient if necessary. I think if things got serious fuel would be a big issue, anything else will be available somewhere but you may have to travel to get it so its important to have the fuel to be mobile, if its not available withing driving distance then were all pretty much screwed anyway.

cerbera147 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 24, 2011 »

Quote from: jsurginor on November 23, 2011

Some really good advice mate,my hat of to you,serious,good forward thinking,but i do have to ask you a question.When i was a kid there was always one kid that had easter eggs for months after,were you that kid

To be honest I'm nowhere near that state of preparedness but I totally agree with concept and am working towards it bit by bit

If my Easter eggs lasted to Easter Monday I was doing something wrong

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