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Title: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 22, 2010
Remember all the chat about the plane wreck on Chimney Rock?
So who's up for a summit bivvi on the 30th July and we'll have a look for it!?

Plan is to head to Meelmore lodge after work and head to Chimney for a Recce/bivvi.

Meeting @ Meelmore Lodge 630pm


666_pack
J
Dowser
Kat
SuspectMonkey
Tim
Chris
MikeD
Chuck
BillyBackpack*
matthewrblack *

*Possible
Title: Re: Rocky mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 22, 2010
If I can escape I'm defo up for this one. Sounds like a classic.

If you're interested there's more information on the plane crash/wreck here:
http://www.chimneyrockb26crash.com/

Quote
10th April 1944
USAAF training activities in Northern Ireland were under the control of the 8th Air Force Composite Command, based at Kirassosck House, Magherlin, Co. Down. The organization created specifically for training purposes was known as a Combat Crew Replacement Centre group, four of which were activated here. No. 3 CCRC was based at Toome.
 
On the 10th April 1944 at 1445hrs three B26 Marauders took off from Toome on a Gunnery Training Mission. 2nd Lt Richard A. Newman flew the lead plane No. 025. The right wingman flying aircraft No. 054 was 2nd Lt Eugene G. Wegman and the left wingman flying aircraft No. 41-18150 a B26b-4 was 2nd Lt Howell C. Osborne Jr.
 
Weather on that day was described as visibility four miles, Stratus clouds at one thousand feet, overcast with breaks, reported haze.
At approximately 1530 hrs the flight was circling over the Irish sea, approximately two to three miles east of Kilkeel in an attempt to get over a cloud bank building up on the Mourne Mountains. 2nd Lt Osborne's plane was out of position and approximately 1200 and 1500 feet behind and four hundred feet below the other two aircraft when it disappeared into a cloud bank never to be seen again.
 
Lt Newman made two attempts to contact Lt Osborne passing on his altitude and course (280 degrees) but found that radio contact had been lost. Lt Wegman stated that previously to this all aircraft had had good interplane contact by radio.
 
James Cousins of Glasdrumman was working in the quarries near the head of Bloody Bridge river valley that day. Low cloud and mist enveloped the Mournes on this occasion. He recalled years later to Ernie Cromie of the Ulster Aviation Society in an article in the publication "12 Miles of Mourne" how he heard the engines of a plane approach his location from the direction of the sea. The sound got louder and louder until he thought the plane was going to crash on top of him then suddenly the engines revved up the plane seemed to turn away to the south and the noise died away. He was unaware that the plane had crashed into Chimney Rock Mountain because thick mist and an intervening ridge blocked the sound of the impact.
 
This was the first fatal accident involving a plane of the No. 3 CCRC. The crew was listed as missing until members of the American 5th Infantry Division on a routine hike in the Mournes discovered the wreckage. Official confirmation of the accident reached the 364th Service Squadron on the 15th April 1944.
 
A report on the accident dated 21/4/44 by Major George Commenator concluded that 2nd Lt Osborne "Made an error in technique by permitting himself to get too far out of position in formation and that the pilot made an error in judgement by flying into clouds in a known mountainous area." No reason was offered to explain why Howell Osborne's plane had had difficulty keeping up with the formation. The fact that the plane he was flying had been retired from frontline service because it was "War Weary" may have been a contributing factor.
 
The crew were as follows:
·               2nd Lt Howell C. Osborne Jr (Pilot)
          ID: 0-685276 (Fort Smith, Arkansas)
·               2nd Lt Chester M. Turner (Co Pilot)
          ID: 0-753462 (Cowley County, Kansas)
·               Staff Sgt Roy R. Cappe Jr (Aerial Engineer)
          ID: 13041696 (Allegheny County, Pennsylvania)
·               Staff Sgt William J. Devenney (Radio Gunner)
          ID: 33367015 (Carbon County, Pennsylvania)
·               Sgt Jimmie Gyovai (Engineer Gunner)
          ID: 15337609(Boone County, West Virginia)
 
 
After all five casualties remains were recovered by  the US Army Graves Registration they  would have been taken to Wilton's Funeral Home, 255 Crumlin Road, Belfast. They were then embalmed, dressed in class A uniform and placed in an American style casket. Their funerals where held at Wilton's Funeral Chapel and then they were buried at Lisnabreeny American Military Cemetery, Rocky Road, Castlereagh, Belfast. They remained there until 1948 when the cemetery was decommissioned. Then they were exhumed and all except William Devenney were returned to the United States upon the request of their families.
William Devenney was reburied in the American War Cemetery, Madingley, Cambridge, England.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: MikeD on July 22, 2010
Count me in.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Dowser on July 22, 2010
I like the sound of this too.  Lots going on at the mo though and I've used up my supply of permission slips.  I'll print some more today and see if I can get clearance from HQ.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 22, 2010
should be good craic and something a bit more random.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 22, 2010
I'm in :)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: SAMD on July 22, 2010
That must be the plane we 'found' when we were kids. We had a caravan at 'Bonny's' and I well remember, sometime in the mid '60s a bunch of us kids deciding to go on an adventure one day during the holidays and we took pack lunches and went to find 'the plane that crashed during the war'. I didn't know what sort of plane it was, I thought it was a German one actually. But I do know I found about 100 rounds of ammo. The rounds had bottleneck cases and I think were 303 calibre. Which I couldn't understand if it was a German plane. Its possible my Bro. still has some of it. A lot of it was badly corroded but some of it was reasonable. I wonder if this plane was fitted up with British weapons, or if the Americans used ammo that was a common size with the British? I presume I was just lucky to find it because I just kicked a sod and out from under it came this pile of bullets!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 23, 2010
I'm in as well. (wonder if I'd be able to dump the car in the Bloody Bridge Cap site car park)

ps. Anyone 'found' the crash site just up from the Ice House in the Glen Valley? Big gash in the hill side and lots of twisted metal w/ signs of extreme heat.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 23, 2010
Thats a new one on me. We could check it out at the weekend. Do you have any other info?

I'm in as well. (wonder if I'd be able to dump the car in the Bloody Bridge Cap site car park)

ps. Anyone 'found' the crash site just up from the Ice House in the Glen Valley? Big gash in the hill side and lots of twisted metal w/ signs of extreme heat.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 23, 2010
Attached map-ish. When I was last there in last winter the area, unlike the surrounding hill, had no heather, no bracken, just a rough flat bit of what looked like grassy bog patch...but it wasn't boggy. Rock in the area with lots of smaller bit of metal stacked on it. Can't find any online info about it.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: SAMD on July 23, 2010
Yup, thats where I remembered it too, although I had a quick wander around that area last year one day and didn't find anything. A metal detector would be useful if someone had one. Or is that a bit too anoraky  ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: jimi r on July 23, 2010
Guys
I came across this posting while researching the very crash that you mention and I can help with your search for the Chimney Rock airplane crash. I put together the website www.chimneyrockb26crash.com mentioned by J . The plane that crashed on the 10th April 1944 was an USAF B26 Marauder Medium bomber. All five of the crew died in the accident. If you’re looking for a crash site you're going to be disappointed. There is virtually nothing left of the plane apart from a few small pieces of alloy scatttered across the mountain and some rusty pieces of engine mount and other small objects at grid ref. 362 255. The remains of the aircraft have been removed by air force salvage squads, the Ulster Aviation Society and souvenir hunters over the years. The 303 ammo found doesn’t come from the plane it carried only .50 calibre machine guns.
The other crash mentioned is at the foot of Thomas Mounatain in the Glen River valley. That plane was a Wellington Bomber Serial No. X3599. It crashed on the 16th March 1942 while flying from Feltwell, Norfolk to Aldergrove. Six died in the crash the rear gunner survived. One of the dead was Section Officer Barbara Blakiston-Houston a local girl from Killyleagh. She is buried in Loughinisland (St John) Church Of Ireland, Seaforde, first grave on the left. The Ulster Aviation Society recovered the engines that use to lie at the site of the crash in the 1980's.
Hope this helps
Jimi r
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Tim on July 24, 2010
I'm up for it.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: chris on July 25, 2010
Should be sweet for this one too, hopefully have some shiny new gear to play with!!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: SAMD on July 25, 2010
Yes it was at that second site that I found the 303 stuff, so it was a Wellington bomber it came from? well there you go. I seem to remember one of the kids found most of a leather helmet, or maybe it was goggles with the glass missing, something like that anyway. There had been broken bits of cockpit and fuselage frame, a couple of busted up seat frames, stuff like that still there, bits of engines etc. I dont remember any wings, although IIRC the Wellington was mainly fabric so it would have dissappeared in a few years.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Matthew on July 25, 2010
I'm in unless my flights are delayed. Hopefully I have some kit which does not smell of jungle.


Matthew
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 26, 2010
Think I'll try this as an ultralight weekend as a tester.

Who wants to post a gear list.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 26, 2010
bivvi bag
softie merlin
roll mat
1.5ltr H20
Head torch
Cheese and smoked meat
Tiple
Clothes on my back + Fleece
All in OMM 32 ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 26, 2010
Has anyone been on Chimney Rock summit - it's one of the ones I've yet to do. What's the best route onto it and is there room at the top for a handful to camp?

I've attached a map of the summit area.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 26, 2010
From memory there is loads of room....'cos there aint nothing there :) Could be very exposed..

If we need a bit of shelter we may want to be heading for the rocky outcrop SE of the summit. Think it's pictured here:

(http://mountainviews.ie/mv/_serverdata/pix/picmtn_ct-00178-8.jpg)

If you're coming from the Brandy Pad, just follow it to the Bog of Donard then cross the stile and pick your way through the bogs to the summit.

I'm trying to get hold of the folks in the Bloody Bridge Campsite, would be a quicker route to dump the car there and go up Bloody Bridge River...or up over Slievenagarragh towards the summit.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 26, 2010
So is this the rough route?
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 26, 2010
Found this

by janerobbie  26 Jan 2005 Ah, Bleck Cra, like many a man you’ve been taken in by a good looking girl. Look behind that pretty little face and you’ll find a cold hearted woman with a dark and dangerous past. During WW2 an American B-26 decided to take a closer look at this little stunner. She clipped his wings and sent him hurtling in smithereens down her curvaceous sides. If you want to see the result of this woman’s wrath, cross the stile between Rocky and Chimney Rock, turn left towards the Bloody Bridge River and at the first small quarry turn right to cross Spence’s River and head for the summit. Keep the quarry at your back and from the river to the summit, and especially once you cross the quarry track, you’ll find the debris – an engine, lots of leads and aluminum (no, not a spelling mistake – this is an American plane) and other things I didn’t recognise because I’ve never worked in an aircraft factory. There used to be a plaque, on the rock beside the engine, but it’s gone now – a victim of thieves, just like the Northern Bank.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 26, 2010
Yup, that's about it J.

Going by jimi r's grid ref the crash site would at the red box. .gpx also attached.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Kat on July 26, 2010
Couldn't make last weekends Donard Wood Camp so really looking forward to this weekends Rocky Mountain Summit!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: jimi r on July 26, 2010
Chuck
I checked the red box on your map it's on the wrong side of the path. The area I was refering to GRID362255 is to the left of the path (Rocky Mt side) on the 560m contour line.
Hope this helps, thought I'd let you know so you wouldn't be searching in the wrong place.
Jimi R
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 26, 2010
AHh...thanks jimi r, so we're talking J 363 255, ( OS Ireland 100m?). If so that would put it here? Is that a bit closer?
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: jimi r on July 26, 2010
Chuck
That's about right, sorry should have specified OS Ireland. A plaque with the names of the crew was recently attached to a rock near the summit.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 26, 2010
Good stuff....that will teach me to just poke about until the numbers match ;)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 27, 2010
Think I'll try this as an ultralight weekend as a tester.

Who wants to post a gear list.

Seeing me and Kat are coming along I will probably bring the tent.  We are short a bivvi bag any way, but split between two people there isnt a huge difference between a tent and 2x bivvi bag's, tarp and walking poles.  Will probably bring the JetBoil for grub. 

Mind you I'm looking at 6 Pack's kit list and feeling a bit jealous... Given that its only one night, perhaps ditching the tarp and just sleeping in the bivvi under the stars is the way forward.  And I could probably survive without hot food as well at a push ;)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 27, 2010
I have a spare trekmates bivvi bag if you want to borrow it? There might also be an issue bag if andy doesn't need it.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 27, 2010
I have a spare trekmates bivvi bag if you want to borrow it? There might also be an issue bag if andy doesn't need it.

Awesome, that would solve the problem!  Now just need to talk Kat into trying out a bivvi :)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 27, 2010
no worries mate. I think dowser has ordered himself on so the issue bag might also be up for grabs.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 27, 2010
I have 2 bivvi bags going spare so give me a shout as to which one you want jon. One trekmate lightweight jobby and one not so light issue bag.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: billy backpack on July 28, 2010
There is a slim chance I could make this but would be arriving very late.

Could be an enjoyable dander over from Meelmore in the dark  ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 28, 2010
So no stove then? Is cheese and smoked meat enough to keep you going over 2 days?

bivvi bag
softie merlin
roll mat
1.5ltr H20
Head torch
Cheese and smoked meat
Tiple
Clothes on my back + Fleece
All in OMM 32 ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 28, 2010
yeah, I'll eat before I leave and all I really need is some supper and a bit of breakie.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 28, 2010
Don't think I could do a night on the hills with no stove. Not that I think it's really necessary, just feels wrong. It's be like being up there with no underpants or Jack Daniels (or with Jack Daniels underpants).

yeah, I'll eat before I leave and all I really need is some supper and a bit of breakie.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 28, 2010
I have 2 bivvi bags going spare so give me a shout as to which one you want jon. One trekmate lightweight jobby and one not so light issue bag.

Cheers, thats great.  Will talk it over with Kat (after checking the weather!) and drop you a PM.  If its likely to be wet we will probably chicken out and go for the tent option though :D

I'm in two minds about the stove.  Tempted to skip the stove, more to save space in my rucksack than to save weight.  That said, a hot brew when you get camp setup is kinda nice so I'm loathe to leave the stove behind.  Its times like this that one of those neat hexi block stoves and a metal mug would be handy for a quick brew :)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 28, 2010
If we need a bit of shelter we may want to be heading for the rocky outcrop SE of the summit. Think it's pictured here:

http://mountainviews.ie/mv/_serverdata/pix/picmtn_ct-00178-8.jpg
Had a wee poke about Bloody Bridge River last night (forgot my head torch so didn't push right up to Chimney Rock), but I'm now thinking that pic is from the big rock to the coll north west of the summit....we'll see what's up there when we get there...
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 28, 2010
I wanted to try base MM kit to see how I coped so I'll bring the Mini Trangia at least. Might still bivi tho if the weather looks anyway decent and if I'm not coming over late with BillyBackpack.

I'm in two minds about the stove.  Tempted to skip the stove, more to save space in my rucksack than to save weight.  That said, a hot brew when you get camp setup is kinda nice so I'm loathe to leave the stove behind.  Its times like this that one of those neat hexi block stoves and a metal mug would be handy for a quick brew :)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Dowser on July 28, 2010
I've gonna bivvi this no matter what the weather conditions provided all my freshly ordered bivvi gear arrives on time.  Bivvi bag ordered online Monday and Tarp and Para-cord order today... Should have it all by Friday morn as it was all in stock.

I see some of you are considering ditching your stoves.  I'm gonna be bringing mine so those of you wanting to travel ultra-light are more than welcome to use it for warming a bit of grub on site.

I really hope my gear turns up on time. So looking forward to trying something new  :P
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 28, 2010
I'm game to bivvi, but can't be bothered bringing the tarp.  I don't know how an Alpkit Hunka would hold up if we did get an overnight shower though?  Dont know about any body else, but mine doesn't draw up all that tight around the face so I'm sure I'd end up lying in a soggy down sleeping bag!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 28, 2010
Think I would still throw the solo tarp in to at least get the head under.

I'm game to bivvi, but can't be bothered bringing the tarp.  I don't know how an Alpkit Hunka would hold up if we did get an overnight shower though?  Dont know about any body else, but mine doesn't draw up all that tight around the face so I'm sure I'd end up lying in a soggy down sleeping bag!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 28, 2010
Think I would still throw the solo tarp in to at least get the head under.

I'd like to get a solo tarp, as I've realised the DD 3x3 is really too big for what I want to use it for.  Any recommendations?  I had a look on Backpacking Light but the solo tarps seem more expensive than the bigger tarps!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 28, 2010
This is the one I have:
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product156.asp
According to BPL it weighs 323g

It is £50 which is more than the bigger tarps but I think it's made of a lighter material. I bought mine for £35 2nd hand. However, our weekend at Lough Shannagh gave it a battering and I think it might be ripping soon!

(http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/upload/productimage/156_E.jpg)

Think I would still throw the solo tarp in to at least get the head under.

I'd like to get a solo tarp, as I've realised the DD 3x3 is really too big for what I want to use it for.  Any recommendations?  I had a look on Backpacking Light but the solo tarps seem more expensive than the bigger tarps!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 28, 2010
might be a damp one

(http://www.netweather.tv/gfsimages/gfs.20100728/06/66/ukprec.png)

whoop
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Tim on July 28, 2010
Think I'll be bringing the tarp up for this one but not much else. Trying to get my pack weight down as much as possible after my Bearnagh summit camp the other day when my pack weighed a ton. Think that was mainly the 10oz steak to be honest though.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 28, 2010
is everyone ok to meet at meelmore lodge about 630pm......ish?
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 28, 2010
However, our weekend at Lough Shannagh gave it a battering and I think it might be ripping soon!
If it's a rip in the material, Google "TENACIOUS repair tape", meant to be 'the' stuff for tarp repairs, got a roll to patch up a couple of holes my DD got on the iPlod.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 28, 2010
is everyone ok to meet at meelmore lodge about 630pm......ish?

Yep, 6.30... ish suits me grand!  Will give me time to eat steak, mash and peppered sauce before camping ;)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 28, 2010
is everyone ok to meet at meelmore lodge about 630pm......ish?

Yep, 6.30... ish suits me grand!  Will give me time to eat steak, mash and peppered sauce before camping ;)
Better in yer belly than on yer back ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: chris on July 28, 2010
Didn't read the original post properly and I thought this was another sat/sun trip. I'll probably not be able to get back for work on time on Saturday so I think I'll have to give it a miss.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 29, 2010
It could be messy me getting there for 630 as I don't finish until 530. Reckon it could be 7ish at top speed. Plus I haven't heard from Uncle Andy yet.

Packed my gear last night as I'm out tonight. Just a shade under 7Kg packed without food or water which is record breaking for me :)

From memory, think this is my kit list (as usual the gaiters aren't in as I always forget them). For eats I'll go with 6s idea of cheese and smoked sausages plus a MRE desert and coffee/choc.

Alpkit Hunka Bivvy
Berghaus Deluge Troos
Berghaus Paclite Jacket
Buff
Cup
Down gillet
Gaiters
GPS
Meths 200mls
Mini Trangia
Montane Windshirt
Spork
Vango Sleeping Bag

Thermal baselayer
Hat
Socks
Underwear

Alpkit gamma
FAK inc Firesteel
Spare GPS batts
Spare Torch batts

Question is, it looks like it might be both windy and wet - who's still bivvying?

is everyone ok to meet at meelmore lodge about 630pm......ish?
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 29, 2010
The BBC satellite images look okay for Friday evening and into Saturday morning.  Hopefully the worst of the rain will be Friday morning and into the afternoon.  That said, the forecast was meant to be good for our Loughshannagh trip and it ended up nothing like the forecast.  So I'm bringing the tent :)

Kit list looks something like this:

To pack:
Vango Tempest 200 tent
Alpkit Pipedream 400 sleeping bag
Karrimor 3/4 self inflating mat
Alpkit Gamma headtorch
North Face 200 fleece
North Face waterproof jacket
Buff
First Aid kit
Hygiene kit

To wear:
Helly Hansen baselayer
Montane Terra trousers
Ice Breaker Merino socks
Salomon Quest boots

Maybe:
JetBoil Flash
100 gas cart
Plastic mug
Spork

If I bring the stove then it will be Supernoodles or Pasta 'n Sauce for supper finished off with a nice big mug of hot chocolate.  If I leave the stove at home then it will be Pepperami and some cereal bars instead!  My biggest issue is that I have either a 35 litre day pack, which wont hold all that gear, or a 70 litre backpack that will swallow all that stuff but end up with lots of flappy material left.  Really need to get a 45 litre job for these overnighters (or carry less stuff :D)!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 29, 2010
still bivving ;D
glad the weather has taken a turn as I can try out my new extreme smock.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Tim on July 29, 2010
Looks like its gonna be dry through the night, bit of rain around six on friday evening but dry after that till Saturday afternoon so I'm still up for a bivvy, although I guess it'll depend on the weather when I'm leaving tomorrow so may end up bringing the pro action tent.

Gearwise;
45L Rucksack containing;
Tarp
Bivvy bag
Sleeping bag
Sleep mat
Hobo Stove with hexi blocks
1 pot
Pasta & Sauce for supper and Porridge for the morning
Fork/Spoon
Hat
Gloves
Fleece
Northface Jacket (will be wearing if it's raining)
Icebreaker Base Layer trousers

Wearing;
Montane Terra Trousers (if I can get down to Cotswold in the morning)
Icebreaker Base layer shirt
Karrimor boots
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 29, 2010
Montane Terra Trousers (if I can get down to Cotswold in the morning)

Awesome trousers, but they are a bit pricey in Cotswold unless you can get some discount on them.  Think the RRP is around £75!  I got mine for £55 from Backpacking Light, and because I ordered a pair for Kat as well we got free delivery.  Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how I look at it!) I'm losing weight with all this walking, so my Montanes are starting to fall off me!  Dont fancy paying for another pair, especially considering I've only worn the ones I currently have on a few trips.  Who knows, maybe I'd still get a few quid for them on eBay but personally I wouldnt fancy buying used trousers ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 29, 2010
So I'm bringing the tent :)

Hope there's room in there for about 10 ;)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Tim on July 29, 2010
Ye they are a bit on the expensive side, but luckily my brother-in-law gets a 20% discount in cotswold for being a Duke of Ed leader. I would go for something a bit cheaper but since I'm off to Sweden next Friday for 6 months I want something pretty reliable as I'm intending to go hiking as often as possible and don't want to have to be forking out on another pair of trousers when I get there, especially with their ridiculously high tax.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 29, 2010
Ye they are a bit on the expensive side, but luckily my brother-in-law gets a 20% discount in cotswold for being a Duke of Ed leader. I would go for something a bit cheaper but since I'm off to Sweden next Friday for 6 months I want something pretty reliable as I'm intending to go hiking as often as possible and don't want to have to be forking out on another pair of trousers when I get there, especially with their ridiculously high tax.

If you can get a bit of discount then the Montanes are worth every penny.  I took mine on the WHW and they were the only trousers I wore day in, day out for about 10 days!  They are light, comfortable and seem to repell dirt and mud easily as mine still looked clean despite all the rain and mud we had been through.  Best of all the DWR coating means they do a good job of repelling light showers of rain, and when they do get wet in a downpour they dry out very, very quickly.  Just watch out for static the first few times you take them off :D

By the way Tim, do you need a lift or anything tomorrow night?  I will be passing through B'hinch so will be no problem collecting you on the way.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 29, 2010
So I'm bringing the tent :)

Hope there's room in there for about 10 ;)

Well the porch is quite spacious ;)  Price to be agreed on a sliding scale depending on how bad the weather really is ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Tim on July 29, 2010
If you can get a bit of discount then the Montanes are worth every penny.  I took mine on the WHW and they were the only trousers I wore day in, day out for about 10 days!  They are light, comfortable and seem to repell dirt and mud easily as mine still looked clean despite all the rain and mud we had been through. 
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By the way Tim, do you need a lift or anything tomorrow night?  I will be passing through B'hinch so will be no problem collecting you on the way.

Ye I'd tried them on in the shop last week and couldn't believe how light and comfortable they were, compared to my Berghaus Navigator trousers which I'm used to. Hopefully I'll be getting a new sleeping bag in the morning as well as I need a new one for going away, as my 15+ year old karrimor sleeping bag just isn't gonna cut it in sub-zero temperatures as low as -25°c, so I may be testing it out tomorrow as well.

If you're passing through and you're sure it's no trouble then that would be great Jon, thanks.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 29, 2010
If you're passing through and you're sure it's no trouble then that would be great Jon, thanks.

No problem at all, will fire you a PM!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Matthew on July 29, 2010
Guys ill not be at this one, I dont have enough clean kit. It has been washed three times and still it smells pretty bad, my sleeping bag is the worst, it's covered in bat S*&T and really pongs. couple that with no sleep for 36 hours I would be a disaster.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: billy backpack on July 30, 2010
Well peeps I should be there ... am just about to pack my bag and have spoken to Dowser about some arrangememts to meet.

We may be arriving pretty late as I can't get away untill around 9.00pm so will only be starting at Meelmore prob about 11pm.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 30, 2010
I'll be coming over late with Andy too. Not sure about coming all the way from Meelmore @ 11pm. Might come from Bloody Bridge.

Well peeps I should be there ... am just about to pack my bag and have spoken to Dowser about some arrangememts to meet.

We may be arriving pretty late as I can't get away untill around 9.00pm so will only be starting at Meelmore prob about 11pm.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 30, 2010
Guys ill not be at this one, I dont have enough clean kit. It has been washed three times and still it smells pretty bad, my sleeping bag is the worst, it's covered in bat S*&T and really pongs. couple that with no sleep for 36 hours I would be a disaster.

Pity you cant make it Matthew!  If you change your mind I'm going to be driving so can give you a lift, just drop me a PM or phone me.

Well peeps I should be there ... am just about to pack my bag and have spoken to Dowser about some arrangememts to meet.  We may be arriving pretty late as I can't get away untill around 9.00pm so will only be starting at Meelmore prob about 11pm.

Good to hear your coming along.  I'll take a chicken curry with boiled rice please ;)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 30, 2010
so I take it everyone is good for the loan of a bivvi bag.

Looking forward to getting a good soaking its been too long ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 30, 2010
but it should be a dry night at some point

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who's still in bivvi bags?
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 30, 2010
The Mournes look largely dry from tea time tonight until lunch on Sat. Wind is more of an issue.
I'm bivvying either way - fuck it!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 30, 2010
The Mournes look largely dry from tea time tonight until lunch on Sat. Wind is more of an issue.
I'm bivvying either way - fuck it!

GOOD MAN!!
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on July 30, 2010
so I take it everyone is good for the loan of a bivvi bag.

Cheers for the offer, but the tent is packed and all :)  Mind you, looks like the weather is all set to clear up later this afternoon so I think we should be in for a dry night into tomorrow morning.  Excellent!

So who all is meeting at Meelmore at 6.30pm?  Just so we don't leave anyone behind!  I make it:

666_pack
Kat
suspectmonkey
Tim
MikeD
Chuck

And the fellas coming later on are:

billy backpack
dowser
J

Sound about right?
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 30, 2010
Don't wait for me....I'll catch up with you guys at the top of Chimney Rock.
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: 666_pack on July 30, 2010
no worries
see you there
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LandyLiam on July 31, 2010
looks like they had a good night weatherwise, i'm going for a wee walk up chimney rock now to see if i can find an abandoned campsite  ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LennyJ1 on July 31, 2010
Good luck, im stuck in work till 4 >:(
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: SAMD on July 31, 2010
Dont forget to let everyone know you are all back, safe n sound
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LandyLiam on July 31, 2010
I'm on the summit now, no sign of them, just a load of empty bottles of buckfast !

Very windy though
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: SAMD on July 31, 2010
They must've got fizzed, then blew away.  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on July 31, 2010
Another stellar night guys. Heres the route we took, pics to follow (and an explanation as to why we left camp wearing underwear but weren't when we got to the car  :o)).
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LennyJ1 on July 31, 2010
Another stellar night guys. Heres the route we took, pics to follow (and an explanation as to why we left camp wearing underwear but weren't when we got to the car  :o)).

J you are a tease  ;D
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LandyLiam on July 31, 2010
Underwear! Sort of glad I didn't meet you now, did meet a couple of lads on the hill also looking for the plane wreck too, I found 2 small bits of twisted aluminium which had been blown from the wreck site (as I was well of course) pics to follow, sitting in bath now soaking the sore legs (no pics to follow!)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 31, 2010
landyliam, we left the summit at 0830 but due to erm..distractions we didn't get to Bloody Bridge until 1130ish.

Which way did you go up to Chimney Rock from?

> just a load of empty bottles of buckfast !
Not ours. Tesco's Finest* Rum and some other equally intoxicating beverage was being consumed on the summit..

Anyhow good walk, good night...one of the best summit sleeps I've had yet...even if the lighthouse on St. John's Point kept bugging me  ;D

Click the summit bivvy pic to view some more...

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/4846199939_ff66c18df5.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcrobert/sets/72157624497999041/).
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Scribble on July 31, 2010
What's the distractions ??? And plz explain the underwear is it a new craze you are trying to start bivvi in pants :-)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on July 31, 2010
All shall be revealed (shudder) in time.....
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Dowser on July 31, 2010
Here's a taster to keep you going till tomorrow when all will be revealed, and I mean that literally... This is how Jonno looked seconds before losing his underwear:

 :-X
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: Scribble on July 31, 2010
Now this is sounding weirder and weirder but very intriguing .. Hope there was no duct tape and rohypnol involved
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LandyLiam on July 31, 2010
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This is how Jonno looked seconds before losing his underwear:
definitly a hint of deliverance there, squeal like a pig  :o


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we left the summit at 0830 but due to erm..distractions we didn't get to Bloody Bridge until 1130ish.

Which way did you go up to Chimney Rock from?

left bloody bridge car park at 0920 and went the path as normal then went off piste to carrs face the hard way (i didn't know there was a path until i could see it from above  :'( ) arrived at summit about 1130ish (yeah, i know, i'm not that fit  8) )
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: ChuckMcB on August 01, 2010
left bloody bridge car park at 0920 and went the path as normal then went off piste to carrs face the hard way (i didn't know there was a path until i could see it from above  :'( ) arrived at summit about 1130ish
That's the kinda route we took down as well. Better to go off piste much earlier over/around Slievenagaggagh, the path and two tracks near the quarry at Carr's Face are a great explore but don't really help to get to the top. I can't press the right button to make my mapping software display the times but I reckon we where on the same mountain side at about the same time...

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Away with you...it 'aint a race... ;)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on August 01, 2010

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Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: RedLeader on August 01, 2010
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Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LandyLiam on August 01, 2010
aha, that explains it all, will stroke you off my wierdo list now  ;)

i chatted to the ninja divers on my way up, and nearly went for a dive myself on my way down but chickened out as i was on my own  :'(

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Away with you...it 'aint a race...
also i'm a sucker for an odd shaped rock so kept going off course to investigate unuusal geological features  :D


here's my bit of wreckage attached (loved the inflatable plane, i bet one of you even weighed it  ::) )

Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LennyJ1 on August 01, 2010
I Loved the plane aswell great touch
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: SAMD on August 01, 2010
Awesome! great job guys. You have created wonderful memories for yourself. I love it.
Although I had thought I would hear on the news of this B52 or whathaveyou being flown off the mountainside down to N.ards.  ;)
Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: suspectmonkey on August 01, 2010
Nice photos, looks like you guys had fun!  Of course, whilst you kids were splashing about in the paddling pool, us real men (and woman) threw in a couple of hills to work up an appetite ;)  Unfortunately my GPS batteries died (been trying out a GPS app) on the way back down, so the return leg (blue) stops short of the Trassey Track.  Note to self, iPhone battery will only last around 4 hours when using GPS!

Was an awesome trip, must say I'm really enjoying the Friday/Saturday trips a lot better as it gives you a day to recover before work :)  Good to catch up with you all again!


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Title: Re: Chimney Rock mountain summit bivvi
Post by: LandyLiam on July 07, 2011
well i've been meaning to get back to chimney rock and have another look so 11 months later i brought the scouts up meaning i could search a wider area and last night we came up trumps and found the engine  :)

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