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Title: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on September 15, 2011
Hey guys!

Many years back there was a small book produced, not sure by whom, called (I think - I do apologise, I was only as nipper...) Myths and Legends of the Mountains of Mourne...dont suppose anyone out there has a copy that I could even photocopy?  Or a similar sort of book on the same topic?  I lead a small boys brigade group and they love hearing silly stories of the different hills as we walk through them; gives them a wee bit of excitment on the quieter routes

Many thanks in advance

Hud
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: LandyLiam on September 15, 2011
I collect books on the Mournes and i hadn't heard of that one, must go add it to my ebay search list  :)
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: Paul72 on September 15, 2011
I don't have that book but you might want to take a look at this page with links, there might be something there to help you.

http://www.magic-of-mourne.co.uk/info.htm

Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on September 15, 2011
Thanks Paul

Liam - one of the mountain leaders I had when I was a nipper had it in his rucker...well thumbed, battered and bruised....never EVER seen it since but I remember it keeping me wide eyed at that age...I check Flea-bay every now and again but havent seen it  :(

Anyhoo - the more stories the better so if anyone else has links etc like Paul I'd be very grateful

Hud
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: Dowser on September 15, 2011
Oh... Now you've caught my interest.  If you ever find this book let us all know.

There are so many Myths and Folklore that I hadn't given a second thought about till you started this thread and now I'm hooked on the idea of finding out more.  I can feel a book coming on  :D

My chapters would read something like this:

Newcastle
The name of the town derives from a castle (demolished in the 19th century) built by Felix Magennis in the late 16th century which stood at the mouth of the Shimna River.

Widows Row
On 13 January 1843, boats from Newcastle and Annalong set out for the usual fishing stations, and were caught in a gale. 14 boats were lost in the heavy seas including a boat which had gone to the rescue. Only two boats survived, the Victoria and the Brothers.[4] 76 men perished, 46 of whom were from Newcastle. They left twenty seven widows, one hundred and eighteen children, and twenty one dependents. A Public Subscription was raised and the cottages, known as Widows Row, were built for the widows and dependants. A local song about the disaster says "Newcastle town is one long street entirely stripped of men"

The Blue Lady
A woman abandoned by her husband who's ghost still haunts the mountains.

Maggie's Leap
Named after a local girl called Maggie, who leapt over the impressive chasm to her death while fleeing soldiers with a basket of eggs.

The Brandy Pad
A popular spot in the mountains is named so because of the illegal brandy smuggling that took place through the area.

Bogey Hill
Just above the harbour at the Southern end of the town, which is named after the carts that carried Mourne granite from the quarry on Thomas Mountain down to the harbour.

The Bloody Bridge
Although the name evokes images of battles fought on this site, it is not known from where exactly this beautiful yet wild coastal area derived its poignant name, although the 1641 rebellion is often thought to be the impetus.

Saint Patrick's Stream
This river in the Mourne Mountains was the site where Saint Patrick banished the snakes from Ireland. and that in his first landings to Ireland he visited the Mournes and even converted the local hill folk to Christianity. The small stream is said to mark the boundary of the Kingdom of Mourne and legend has it that there is a rock in the stream with his hand print in it where he knelt down to drink the water.

There's also Hare's Gap, Windy Gap and Pigeon Rock etc etc but I would have to do a bit more research on those lol

 8)
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: surfnscenic on September 15, 2011
I believe that the Paddy Dillon book "Mourne Walks" has some info about places and names. I can't find my copy but when I do I'll put up some references.
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on September 15, 2011
Well this is one that I got told (and remembered!) it is online so I didnt make it up (someone else did lol!)

During the building of the St. John the Evangelist church on the Kilcoo road in Ballymaghery, a bull, with devil red eyes, angry at the building of the wall surrounding the church came down each night and tossed the wall destroying it.  The local priest staked a stick in the ground behind where the wall was being built and the bull never came back to annoy the building again.  The stick now is the largest fairy thorn bush in Ulster...

Any more whimsies like these out there??!

Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: LennyJ1 on September 15, 2011
The Was told this story about The Bloody Bridge.

The bloody bridge derived its name from a horse race that went badly wrong. Horses and riders galloped into the void and onto the rocks below when the lead horse passed the wrong side of the parapet. See article 'Round Rostrevor' in Downpatrick Recorder of 22nd August 1874; laterly also 'Where Donard Guards' page 69, 'How the Bloody Bridge really earned its name'. It is more than time that this poisonous bit of ancient sectarian propaganda was laid to rest (ie. the bodies thrown over the bridge into the river which thus ran red). Roll on TCD's project of putting the depositions about 1641 online by 2010 for us all to read. On a happier note it is indeed a fabulous place to walk.

I like this one.
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: Are we there yet? on September 15, 2011
Ive read that! Its a lovely wee bedtime read  :) I got it from the library, but ive also seen it in Tescos Newcastle..  £7.99 if i remember correctly. Enjoy, its lovely. i read about each mountain before a hike..  even though id done it before it made it more interesting and exciting (i think i need to do more socializing  ::))
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: Are we there yet? on September 15, 2011
PS... you will find it in Tescos with the maps (normally located at the back door.)
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on September 16, 2011
Nice one AnnieAnne...must look it up next time I'm down....
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: beau on October 05, 2011
The book i think you need Hud is,leagendary stories of the carlingford lough district by micheal g crawford 1924.was republished again 1964,called myths and legends of carlingfordlough its all about the mournes it names every hill,lough,valley and the legend behind it,not to be read on a nite camp in the mournes to spooky lol.The author was from warrenpoint noticed blue plack on house ,had a copy but lost was really great read really brought out the magic in the mournes.think my local newsagent still has it amongest tourist books,will look see
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on October 06, 2011
Beau....truly a legend among mortals!
If your local newsagent please let me know and I will either run down or collect and reimburse you - whichever works! 
Fantastic find Beau - thank you so much!!!
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: specimanYak on October 06, 2011
Looks like the MG Crawford book was republished in 1996, managed to reserve a copy at the library, check the pic for SELB numbers:

Here's a short ghost story about Warrenpoint by MG Crawford:
http://goo.gl/GCJ2Y
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on October 06, 2011
SpecimanYak - I found it on ni-libraries too....hoping to pick it up in Belfast; quick query on the wee pic you attached - is it available to buy per what I saw there?
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: specimanYak on October 06, 2011
SpecimanYak - I found it on ni-libraries too....hoping to pick it up in Belfast; quick query on the wee pic you attached - is it available to buy per what I saw there?

It's not available to buy from the library, it's the retail price of the book and how much it would cost to replace if the book was lost, but with the SELB numbers and ebay/Amazon something might turn up.
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on October 06, 2011
Booooo!!!  Have one coming from Amazon (hopefully ???) but was hoping for two (greedy Hud!!)
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: LandyLiam on October 06, 2011
i did a search on amazon and this came up  :o
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Mountains-O-Mourne/dp/B002ETLV0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317940094&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: beau on October 07, 2011
sorry guys checked local newsagent but they dont have it,they did a few years back.will keep eyes open thou :(
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on October 07, 2011
Never panic beau - thanks for cheching - SpecimanYak's post to Library will hopefully get me what I need....LandyLiam...my music is, at best, questionable, but even this may be a bridge too far?!?  ;D
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: specimanYak on October 09, 2011
i did a search on amazon and this came up  :o
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Mountains-O-Mourne/dp/B002ETLV0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317940094&sr=8-1

Haha, his album title "I'll take him camping, Friday" sounds like a threat.
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: RedLeader on October 10, 2011
Lol, "I'll take him camping Friday if he doesn't behave" :D

i did a search on amazon and this came up  :o
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Mountains-O-Mourne/dp/B002ETLV0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317940094&sr=8-1

Haha, his album title "I'll take him camping, Friday" sounds like a threat.
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: beau on October 13, 2011
Some more rare books about mourne legends.The ring of mourne by W Haugton Crowe mentioned on ni wild blog 17th jan 2011.Village of the seven hills by same author.Was talking to local shop owner they print these books from time to time,She thinks newagent in Warrenpoint has some in boxs in spare room including M G Crawfords lengendary stories,Will let ye know how it goes.but not to sure prob all gone.chasing lengends :)
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: Kayakgirl on October 14, 2011
Hi Hud,
I bought a book from Tescomos about folklore and leg ends from the North. The storyteller was from the Annalong direction and basically wrote the book from stories he was told when he was a nipper. Can't remember the title, but as Anna said it was near the map section and cost around 7 to 8 quid.
Enjoy..
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on October 14, 2011
Thanks ladies...am down this weekend so will have a wee nosey...thanks again!!!
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: Are we there yet? on October 14, 2011
In the Mourne Observer this week (in the Man about town section) theres a new book mentioned 'The unexplained in Co Down' Ghosts, Legends, myths and Folklore.  by Annaclone Historical Society. Includes stories from Banbridge, Rathriland, Annaclone, Dromore, Castlewellan, Downpatrick, Newcastle, Portaferry, Mourne and many other areas..  "Its billed as being of particular interest to those who are fascinated y the legends, folklore and unexplained in their local area..  The book will  be available to purchase at the offical launch night Friday October at 7.30pm in Annaclone Hall. It will later be available at local shops or by contacting members of the Annaclone historical society.. Kieran heenan ( 40631378), Michael Wallace (07808800909) and Pauline Mccroroy (40628126)" . Dont know if this is any good to you but it looks good from the cover.. very spooky!   :o Think i might have to purchase that myself  :)
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on October 14, 2011
...oooh sounds good!  Sounds perfect for ghosty stories before bedtime!!!
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: LandyLiam on April 20, 2013
Did you ever get the book Hud? I managed to pick myself up a copy this week from ebay
Title: Re: Myths of the Mournes
Post by: hud on April 21, 2013
Hey Liam; yes amazon came good and got a perfectly fine second hand copy! It was actually for a good friend of mine, the book. Every time we were up the hills with a young group he would start with the stories from it; a fellow mountain leader had it and he was hooked. He had said he'd searched for it high and low so thought it'd be a nice wee gift if I could get it. He was made up when he opened it!!!