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Title: walking with dogs
Post by: chris on September 27, 2009
how many in here have dogs, and walk with them in the hills? I have a couple of springers and I feel that they are ready to begin walking with me in the mournes. their about 6months old and stuffed with energy so I'm looking for ideas on routes.

Ideally i'd like a quite route where the chances of meeting other people are realitivley slim (especialy other dogs!)
Something with romping moors so they can run around a lot
and maybe a liitle summit for a few first pics!

anyone any ideas where this magical small mountain in the middle of nowhere where no one ever goes is!? I'll have a look at the map later and see if I can find anything but any suggestions and dog walking tips would be appreciated.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: Steve on September 27, 2009
I have a black and tan Jack Russell that comes everywhere with me, IMO it's not fair not to bring your dogs because they are naturally outdoor creatures and love being outside and tracking and chasing things.  It's very rare that a dog on it's own will catch anything so I don't see any harm in letting them chase the odd rabbit or rat.

When you are just out for a walk, your dog(s) will be sniffing about trying to find things because that's what they do, If I were you I'd take them to Knochchree, it's not a big hill and there's a gravel path most of the way round with a nice wee summit.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: Mouldsy on September 27, 2009
I have a Golden Lab and take him with me when I can, I took him to the Mourne with me a while ago and had to keep him on the lead the whole time as there was a lot of sheep about and the farmer was out in the fields, I like the dog to run free as I know he wouldn't harm another animal and I hate having him on the lead as he likes to run free plus he gets more exercise running about on his own. But with the farmer going about his business and seeing a dog running about round his sheep I am sure he wouldn't be to happy and they have the right to shoot a dog which is not on a lead. I would advise, if you are going to the Mourne's with your dogs, that you keep them on a lead as it would run the risk of them getting shot by an angry  farmer.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: Wolf_Larson on September 27, 2009
Yeh true Mouldsy, my mates dog was shot on the carntall road thats on the way to ballyclare,

He left the dog at his sisters house while he was on holilday, it got out and the frammer shot it.

I wont go into detail but it had a bad death.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: chris on September 27, 2009
its fair enough to shoot a dog. do you have any idea how much sheep cost!
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: Paul on September 27, 2009
Folks to clear a commonly held misbelief, a farmer has no right to shoot a dog just because it is off a lead, they have no right to shoot a dog because it is on their land they can only shoot a dog which is actively worrying livestock. If a farmer was to shoot your dog and it wasnt worrying livestock, the farmer would be liable for prosecution.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: NeilB on September 27, 2009
not really a dog person chris?

this happened me, 1 of my dogs got shot in ballymena, to say i ws gutted is an understatement, i got the dog just after my son was born so the dog and him would grow up together, she was a wee red staff, an absolutely brilliant dog, she slipped the lead got into a field and the farmer shot her said he thought it was a fox but shot her from about 10 metres away, the bastard. i dont give a monkeys how much a sheep costs they are a commodity a dog is part of you family your pack, i dont know how anyone can compare a dog and sheep

Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: Mouldsy on September 28, 2009
Thanks for that Paul, I thought that even if the dog was in the same field as the sheep the dog could be shot.
I agree with Neil, the dog is part of the family, I take it you don't like dogs Chris?
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: chris on September 28, 2009
errrr...did you guys not read the point of this post? I love my dogs and dogs in generall, and I'm looking to take them out walking with me. I know a few of the farmers around my area very well and just last week some dogs got in and he lost 3 sheep at £17,000, each thats £51,000 down the drain in a few mins. I'n my opinion its every farmers right to shoot a dog, but only as paul says "if its activley worrying livestock" That must've been a pretty scummy farmer to take a shot like that from 10m mate, i'm sorry you lost your dog.
They look after their sheep like we look after our dogs, if an animal was about to attack your dog and you had the chance to shoot it i'm damn sure I would.

Its our job to be responsible dog owners.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: Mouldsy on September 28, 2009
Your right mate, It is our responsibility to look after our dogs when we are out.
Davy.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: RedLeader on September 28, 2009
I'm not a huge fan of dogs, never have been so when I'm out walking it's a bit annoying when other peoples dogs come up and start sniffing round me or the kids. With a bigger dog it can be worrying.That said, dogs are outdoors animals so I appreciate that they like to run free.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: MG1 on September 28, 2009
I got myself a black lab/rott for bring up the hills but need to wait till he s at least 18 months old cause there joints are dodgy before that.
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: ulsterwalker on September 28, 2009
I think you should be careful not doing too much with your dog when its young as MG1 has suggested. From what I know, yeah yeah very little  ;) ;D, I wouldn't be taking my dog out on anything too strenuous before theyre about 9 months old as if they havent fully grown it can mean that their joints might deteriate rather quickly.

Dog advice has been done a couple times on OM, check the links, will be more useful than anything I can tell you

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/forummessages/mps/dt/4/UTN/11238/

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/forummessages/mps/dt/4/UTN/26794/

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/forummessages/mps/dt/4/UTN/25234/

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/forummessages/mps/dt/4/UTN/32139/
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: chris on September 28, 2009
18 months!? I heard 6months...
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: indianian on September 29, 2009
There are areas in the Mourns where the landowners dont allow any dogs apart from there own working dogs,  and these areas are sign posted at carparks,  what they can do about it im not sure, but it might be ammo in any access issues, so we need to be careful in that respect..  i would say im fond of dogs but not a dog lover,  i wont take one in to the mountains or allow anybody im leading to take one, just in case the worst happened, the fall out and aftermath would just not be worth the hassle!!!! as for farmers shooting dogs,  if they are attacking his livestock then i feel he has the right to, and claim compensation for any loss from the dog owner.  but common sense must be used and not an excuse for some target practice. as for the cost of the sheep, WOW thats an expensive roast,  do you get a free portion of mint sauce with that  lol
Title: Re: walking with dogs
Post by: Wolf_Larson on September 29, 2009
When i use to work down the south of ireland spary painting fram houses, the fammers even shot there own dogs for messing with livestock.

I even remember messing about with a wee dog( looked like a jack rusal ) one day i was painting, the next day i went back the fammer said he shot it as it was the 3rd time it bit a lamb, he said the 1st time it killed a lamb.

Thats why i would be very careful if i had a dog.