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Title: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 08, 2009
my self and 666_pack have just found out about a possible Gullie traverse of the Mournes starting from a Gullie on Slieve Commadagh. Has anyone heard of this before if so do they have any info on it?
Title: Re: Gulley Traverse of the Mournes
Post by: slippytoe on July 08, 2009
 I think this is possibly the trek you are after. The first gulley is at the Pot of Pulgarve on Commedagh then descend to the Pot of Legawherry, here you will go up a long gulley to the left hand side of the Pot. Proceed across Slieve Beg and descend to the gully to the right of the Devil's Coachroad; Satan's Buttress is on the left. The next gully is Skye-Pye on Cove then onto Summit Gulley on Ben Crom. A long walk away Great Gulley on Eagle is the last big climb. Hope this is the right answer for you. G'luck :)
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 09, 2009
Hi Slippy,
Thanks for that. Have you ever tried this traverse?
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: chris on July 09, 2009
I came off commedagh the other week down a gullie thing it was bit of a scramble with some pretty big drops, pretty hairy at times, on hindsight we prob cudda done with a rope! took us down onto the trassy track about half way along. I dont have my map on me at the min to check the grid ref but its marked as a cliff. Could that be what your talking about?
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 09, 2009
Here is some stuff i have found out on my lunch hour.

(http://www.sixgolds.com/stmwalkz.gif)

In the swirling mist the Stacks of Legawherry look like the worried wives of fishermen looking out to sea hoping in desperation for the safe return of their husbands from the jaws of a raging tempest.
P1 indicates position of the Pot of Legawherry on map above.


(http://www.sixgolds.com/stmlegaw.jpg)


Bleck Cra(05-02-01 00:04): Slieve Corragh - “rough mountain”: ignored or derided by horny-hooved height-sprites: just letters to climb over, en route to somewhere else. But ahh, the Pot of Legawherry and the castles over Spinkwee - grandstand seats to view soul-healing panoramas of South Down
(http://mountainviews.ie/mv/_serverdata/pix/picmtn_ct-00212-3.jpg)




not too sure about this one
(http://mountainviews.ie/mv/_serverdata/pix/picmtn_ct-00212-2.jpg)

photo shows good scrambling territory on the NE of slieve corragh for the more technically minded mountain walker. approach from the drinns in tollymore forest park. about 40 mins from the forest boundary. avoid in the wet as it can get very greasy and doesn't dry quickly due to the northerly aspect. experienced mountaineers would enjoy themselves here in a hard winter.

We'll get this route pieced together yet.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 09, 2009
Thats first class guys :)

Any one up for the traverse with an overnighter along the way?
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 09, 2009
Looks like some good scrambles to be had.
When you up for this stain, do you think it will before the end of the month or August?
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 09, 2009
In a couple of weeks prob 25th July what you think?

Want to pick up a lid before we do it though.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: chris on July 10, 2009
pick up a lid? I'd be up for comming if you guys didnt mind.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 13, 2009
not a problem mate the more the merryier. The lid is a helmet had a bit of a fall on Slieve Muck last week trying to climb some rock i shouldn't have.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 14, 2009
Your more than welcome to come along chris should be good craic.
Title: Ben crom gully
Post by: 666_pack on July 20, 2009
This must be the gully were after.


(http://moireosullivan.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dscf0020.jpg?w=336&h=448)

What do you think?

Some more Ben Crom
(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/14507703.jpg)
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 20, 2009
Yeah that looks to be it. Where did you get that picture?
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 20, 2009
I just put ben crom into google images.

Still tryin to find skye-pye on cove and the gully to the left of satans buttress.............. ???
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 20, 2009
Think I've got the gully on beg.

(http://mountainviews.ie/mv/_serverdata/pix/picmtn_ct-00297-1.jpg)

Just to the right of the coachroad :)


Also found this cracking pic of the beginning of the route.Slieve Muck to Doan.

(http://mountainviews.ie/mv/_serverdata/pix/picmtn_ct-00245-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: chris on July 20, 2009
looking good, Im looking forward to it! has anyone checked the weather? I think its to turn during the week but but I'm not sure about the weekend. Hopefully its suitable for bivvys.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 20, 2009
Thats all part of the adventure. ;D
W'll be bringing a few tarps also so we should be fine.

I'm really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 20, 2009
Had a wee look at the weather.... looks like some rain on sat but nothing major. Dry night and clear skies for sunday but as always it can always change.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 20, 2009
More info on Summit Gullie on Ben Crom.


The first gully you'll come accross is NOT to be attempted, you will know this place as it casts an obvious shadow on the mountain and is damp even on dry days. Head round another 10 mins to discover the great gully. You cannot miss it close up. Time to scramble up one if not the steepest gradients in the mournes. Don't worry about the right hand bend at the top, it's very steep but short (remember 3 points of contact) and pretty short.


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Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: chris on July 20, 2009
that sounds class! I can't wait now, was thinking about taking my new tent (aint had a proper chance to use it yet!) but I think i'll be fine with just a bivvy.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: RedLeader on July 23, 2009
This sounds like an excellent weekend. Be sure and take some piccies and put a writeup up so we can see how you got on!
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 23, 2009
Really looking forward to this.
Weather for saturday looks promising but sunday will be a wet one.
If all goes well I think this will be a future classic.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 24, 2009
Any other takers for the trip tomorrow. We're leaving Portadown bout one o'clock.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: RedLeader on July 24, 2009
Any other takers for the trip tomorrow. We're leaving Portadown bout one o'clock.

Probably a bit beyond my level of experience and fitness but best of luck, hope it's a top weekend!
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 24, 2009
It should be good as long as the rain holds off till late on Sat or at least long enough to get the tarps up.
you'll have get on some hills Jonno get you ready for the next trip :)
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: RedLeader on July 24, 2009
It should be good as long as the rain holds off till late on Sat or at least long enough to get the tarps up.
you'll have get on some hills Jonno get you ready for the next trip :)

I know, I'm gagging for some camping action. My weekly jaunts round Cave Hill don't seem to be helping my fitness. Might have to try some jogging *gasp* :)
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 24, 2009
You just have to keep pushing yourself. Found this cracker picture of some of the terrian we will be covering from left lough shannan to Ben Crom.

(http://www.irondonkey.com/p7lsm_img_1/fullsize/Mournes_4_fs.jpg)
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 24, 2009
Looks like it was taken on Lamagan I think.
Hope it like that when we get there ;D
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 24, 2009
So do i we're due some decent weather up there
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: 666_pack on July 28, 2009
so, trip went well and everyone made it back in one piece! I'm getting together a full trip report and should be posted soon.

The summit gully on Ben Crom is dangerous and not to attempted. Its wet, and slimey and not fun. >:(

Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 28, 2009
Trip was good but very hard. The torrential rain wasn't that nice either. The Ben crom gully is very dangerous but would still like a look at it from the bottom.Still in pain to day.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: MG1 on July 28, 2009
Also if you hate midges do NOT go down this Gully i've never been attacked by as many in my life, this also made the down climb very difficult >:(
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: RedLeader on July 31, 2009
Did anyone get round to doing a writeup on this? I'm dying to hear how it all went.
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: jusmeig on September 24, 2012
Hi folks,

We were thinking of doing Great Gully on Ben Crom and was wondering if anyone has any advice on the route?

Would you advise wearing a helmet/rope, or is it a pure scrambling root. (hard enough to get direct info online on this route)
Is the start of the Gulley hard to find (I know there is summit Gully but want to leave this one)

Many Thanks

Justin
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: Mourneman on September 24, 2012
Think rumblebum done this earlier this year,think its scrambling more than anything,the last twenty feet or so is a wee bit hairy ::)
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: whoRya on September 25, 2012
Hi Justin.  I think Mourneman is referring to this wee trip up Ben Crom (http://www.ni-wild.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2767.msg29527#msg29527).  There are a couple of pics there.

I have copied a photograph by mcrtchly from the Mountainviews (http://mountainviews.ie/mv/index.php?mtnindex=404) website below.  That website also has good information about the gully. 

I think you are probably referring to the one we climbed which follows the blue line in the photo below.  If you approach it (as we did) round the shoulder from the Doan/Ben Crom River side just make sure you stay below the headwall of the main rock faces.  Basically if you meet a big bit of rock stay to the low side of it.  I think that will make sense if you look at the photograph.  You may have a bit of boulder hopping until you pick up the track that traverses the mountain and gives you the opening to the gullies.

If you climb from the dam I think you can catch a goat track most of the way up. 

We had a look up into the summit gully but from what I have read it is always pretty damp in it so we thought better and went to the other one.  It is fairly steep but you generally feel comfortable enough at any point to stand firm and have a breather.  You can get a bit of a hand gripping the heather as you climb but just make sure your feet have a good placement before relying on that.  It is steepest as you reach the top, but good fun as long as common-sense prevails.

We didn't have any equipment.  A helmet would of course give you protection.  That could be said of anything that involves a scramble.

Hope that helps.  Be sure and take a few pics and let us know how you get on.  Have fun! 
(http://mountainviews.ie/mv/_serverdata/pix/picmtn_ct-00404-13.jpg)
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: jusmeig on September 25, 2012
Hi whoRya,

Thanks for the reply. I had seen the post on Mountainviews but it mentioned helmets, slings and bolts so it got me worried!
I guess what some people consider "safe" differs from what others consider safe.

Having just done the (excellent) Devil's Coach Road, we could probably have done with helmets on the upper reaches. Stones get dislodged very easily and pick up speed. I guess it only takes one on the head and you will wish you had a helmet on then!!

Will take plenty of snaps, cheers for the advice

J

Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: Mourneman on September 25, 2012
i'am sure i've a few photos of the main gully

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/7091501033_05786f2e45_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75601656@N07/7091501033/)
ben 4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75601656@N07/7091501033/) by paul surginor (http://www.flickr.com/people/75601656@N07/), on Flickr

if i can find them i'll post them up,heres a ew links to youtube video i have done on ben crom,sorry about the crappy voice over,but i think i had a good view down the main gully.

 you tube links   



                       


 
                       


hope this help a bit
Title: Re: Gullie Traverse
Post by: jusmeig on September 25, 2012
Many thanks again.
Here's my "Best of the Mournes" to date:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30888621@N02/sets/72157622234845433/with/7914353282/

Plenty more to come as we are only getting going in the Mournes :)