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Outdoor Activities => Climbing => Topic started by: LennyJ1 on November 03, 2012
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Indoor Climbing usually:
@ Ozone Belfast - Tuesday Nights Everyone welcome Beginners to Pro's (the climbing kind ;) )
starts about 7pm
In the lighter evenings these nights may be outdoors so keep an eye on the thread.
Hey guys and gals
I was thinking we have plenty of people on our website now to start a climbing evening at Ozone for NI-Wilder. A time we could meet and have a chat and tackle some routes.
I was thinking of Thursday evenings at 7pm.
The cost is only £4 each.
I will be going myself so if you want to come just say below ;D
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I'd love to Lenny... but i'd never make it up in time. If you're ever going on a Sunday afternoon let me know :)
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I am sure I will be going down one Sunday soon.
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I've never been to the Ozone. Can you get a coffee there and, what gear, if any is required?
What costs?
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Count me in for a Thursday climbing session Lenny, just need to relearn the ropes, aha.
I've never been to the Ozone. Can you get a coffee there and, what gear, if any is required?
What costs?
Not too sure about coffee but a climbing session is £4 to £5 and you can get the climbing harness there, it cost me nothing to hire last time i was there. I wore a light weight pair of trainers and shorts and t-shirt as i don't own any specific climbing gear.
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I could possibly do a Thursday night climb.
I climb there every Wednesday between 2 and 5. And your right about it being £4-£5.
I'm not sure what equipment they lend out, I must ask. Even if it was just climbing shoes, then I could go bouldering without worrying about a big fall.
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They have harnesses and I can show you the ropes :-\
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I could be tempted by this.
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Right I will be at the ozone between 7-7.30. See you there.
Looking forward to it.
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This Thu would potentially be a bit soon for me. Do you have to have climbing shoes?
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This Thu would potentially be a bit soon for me. Do you have to have climbing shoes?
Nope, trainers will be fine to get started. If you enjoy it then you could look to buy some but not to start.
Hey I will be looking to go most thursdays got to get loads of training in for next year.
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Thursdays aren't good for me, Monday and Tuesday nights are and Sunday's.
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I just picked thursdays out of a hat. sure we could change it but not everyone is going to make it.
I will set up a vote.
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Cheers!
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Right so the people have spoken and Tuesday evenings it will be going forward. I will be there most Tuedays just after 7pm. People are more than welcome to come along and learn or teach and have fun. ;D
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Yay!!! Btw how much is it?
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£4 I think, no more that £5 :)
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Is this meeting at Ozone on tomorrow evening-Thursday?
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Is this meeting at Ozone on tomorrow evening-Thursday?
Sure is. :)
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I may get down tonight after I perform my chauffeur duties if its quiet at home.
Sweet, get some routes leaded.
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Had a great night, cheers for all the help learning the ropes, roll on Tuesday.
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Had fun also. Hope there will be more next Tuesday.
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Had a great night, cheers for all the help learning the ropes, roll on Tuesday.
That is photo is not very flattening.
I am going down the wall today at 4pm for a couple of hours if anyone wants to come.
And dont forget the climbing night has bee changed to Tuesday nights.
I will be down at around 7.15pm on Tuesday. :)
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"Came away thinking 'oh I did pretty well' then Megan shows me how to do it today"
That's one of the more difficult routes on the wall, she certainly knows what she's doing, kudos to her. :)
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Go Megan!!
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So who's all coming on tuesday?
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I'll definitely be there on Tuesday.
Just so everyone knows, the sessions are £4 and the climbing harness is free to hire, as a beginner you need to fill in a simple form and have an experienced climber sign it.
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I'll definitely be there on Tuesday.
Just so everyone knows, the sessions are £4 and the climbing harness is free to hire, as a beginner you need to fill in a simple form and have an experienced climber sign it.
I would say you know what your doing now ;)
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Do you need to fill that in everytime SY? If so I'd 'cough' fill it in saying I knew what I was doing ;)
Just for the first couple of times then you can get your Boost card which means you can swipe and pay without filling in any more forms. From now on though, i'm 'ahem, experienced'.
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I would say you know what your doing now ;)
Many thanks Lenny, that's all down to your great teaching, much appreciated. :)
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No problems, I love to show people the ropes 'ahem'
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Me I'm going! Plus a pal and another one is meeting me down there.
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Had good fun tonight. Hopefully going to get a trip sorted down to awesome walls in Dublin next January. So keep a eye out for that.
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It was a good wee night, roll on next week..
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That was another great night, looking forward to tackling that blue route again next week.
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Belay system bought today, buying my shoes at the weekend.. Getting a good deal £50 for Chilli's that's with my 20% and a wee bit extra thanks to Angus!
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Arm feeling better today. Thank god for painkillers
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Pulled a muscle in my shoulder so when I raise my arm above my head
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did you do it on Tuesday night? maybe your getting old ;D can you get called old now instead of me? it was terribly hurtful ;) :D
I am getting old LOL. Just not as old as you.
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LOL
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hi every one a freind an i are intresred in coming to ozone but we kinda dont have a clue how to climb but the photos look pretty cool so we wanna go, please can we tag along lol ::)
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Yes no problem.
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hi every one a freind an i are intresred in coming to ozone but we kinda dont have a clue how to climb but the photos look pretty cool so we wanna go, please can we tag along lol ::)
Of course you can. Just need trainers to get started.
When you arrive you need to fill out a form which I will sign (or someone else) and just ask for a harness.
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;D happy days thanks alot weve now got somthin to look forward to , thankyou ;D
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So whos coming along tonight ???
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Me + 2
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;D me and a freind am well looking forward to it ;D
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one thing ive never met anyone of ni wild how will i no who to meet lol
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one thing ive never met anyone of ni wild how will i no who to meet lol
I will be wearing a bright blue Berghaus down jacket and have a orange osprey pack.
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we kinda dont have a clue about it i just seen the pics an thought looked pretty cool an wud love a bash , can we still go and give it a go or do you need to have some sort of experiance :-\
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we kinda dont have a clue about it i just seen the pics an thought looked pretty cool an wud love a bash , can we still go and give it a go or do you need to have some sort of experiance :-\
Meet me at the front door around 7:10. fill in the form and I will sign it for you :)
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Have a great time evey1 :)
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Are you not going?
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Have a great time evey1 :)
Though you was coming? :(
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My foot is still pretty beat, i cant even play football this week. I can feel it coming around a little better today. ;D
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See you all down there. :)
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Another grand night, good to see a few more folks joining in.
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Is there a climbing evening on Thursday? :o
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Hi every one had a fab nite climbing and cant wait till next week!!! like to say thanks to Lenny and Everyone!! For making us feel so welcome and can't wait to learn more ;D thanks
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Great fun tonight. Enjoyed help some new guys and watching other grow. Set a date for our trip to Dublin. New post to follow.
I might be able to make Thursday give you a shout.
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have da say a big thanks to lenny and speciman yak for not droping me tonight ,i never thought i would actualy go as high as i did lol , really enjoyed it and meeting everyone , see yas all next week ;)
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Another great night climbing, good to see everyone. Aunty sham's knows everyone :) and got me on the big overhang wall which was great :)
It's good to be in the know lol..
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Hands and arms are sore today.. :-\
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Is there a climbing meeting on Thursday evening or just Tuesday evening?
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Is there a climbing meeting on Thursday evening or just Tuesday evening?
ATM it's just a Tuesday at the ozone afaik but there may well be ni-wilders doing their own thing
Thanks Dave, I'll keep an eye to the forum. I see Lenny will be there tomorrow morning but I probably won't be able to make that.
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Alex Honnold, Alone on the wall, wow:
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So whos all going tonight?
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Yep, see you all later.
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I won't as I've a meeting to go to.. :(
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Grand night, fingers and forearms are sore.
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Grand night, fingers and forearms are sore.
Ditto, Forearms are pumped. happy with today's efforts
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Had a good night but must admit came away thinking I didnt try hard enough :-\
That black route is so close I can taste it, which I thought I was going to get with my kebab on the way home but it was a let down too :'( and it was the last bit of junk Im eating...well until the weekend :D
Know what you mean, that black route does look insanely difficult though, i've got my own vendetta with that blue route now, we're gonna have to try them first thing next week.
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I'll be black and blue next week if I do them both.. Lol..
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I know.. I'm busting to wear them.. Ordered a harness on flea bay too, got it for £17 used twice.. Will see what it's like when It gets delivered.
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I know.. Need to test out my shoes on Sunday as I can't wait till then.. Anyone up for it?
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So I am looking to get out on sunday but atm not down the wall. I am currently looking to go down to the boulder at Greyabbey to do some bouldering.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crag.php?id=10158 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crag.php?id=10158)
The weather looks good currently
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655984?day=4 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655984?day=4)
This is not set in stone ::) as I could go indoors to the ozone or Hot rock if no-one else wants to go outside.
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So I am looking to get out on sunday but atm not down the wall. I am currently looking to go down to the boulder at Greyabbey to do some bouldering.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crag.php?id=10158 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crag.php?id=10158)
The weather looks good currently
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655984?day=4 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655984?day=4)
This is not set in stone ::) as I could go indoors to the ozone or Hot rock if no-one else wants to go outside.
I'll be a bit pushed for time this Sunday, so the Hotrock would be good for me this time.. :)
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I will have to get back to you about Hot rock as its abit out the way like ozone is for you :)
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No problem Lenny... it was one of your suggested places :)
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I did, however thinking now I dont have permission for the car, I may need to seek permission first. sorry :(
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Permission for the car??
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Permission for the car??
Just incase SWMBO needs it
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I've been looking out for climbing gear on ebay and wanted to ask for a bit of advice concerning shoe size, i'm a size 9 and was wondering should i be looking for a climbing shoe a size smaller or a size larger. I know it can get a bit technical with different makes and models of shoes and they mostly don't follow your standard shoe size, but is there a general rule i should be following?
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I've been looking out for climbing gear on ebay and wanted to ask for a bit of advice concerning shoe size, i'm a size 9 and was wondering should i be looking for a climbing shoe a size smaller or a size larger. I know it can get a bit technical with different makes and models of shoes and they mostly don't follow your standard shoe size, but is there a general rule i should be following?
I have always bought my size. You could argue that smaller size helps but that can become uncomfortable over long periods of time.
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I have always bought my size. You could argue that smaller size helps but that can become uncomfortable over long periods of time.
Cheers, that's what i was wondering, should i go for a smaller size and have the toes curled up for strength and gripping or my usual size so it's more comfortable. Looks like i'll be taking the comfy route. :)
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I have always bought my size. You could argue that smaller size helps but that can become uncomfortable over long periods of time.
Cheers, that's what i was wondering, should i go for a smaller size and have the toes curled up for strength and gripping or my usual size so it's more comfortable. Looks like i'll be taking the comfy route. :)
Did you ever hear from that guy?
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Did you ever hear from that guy?
He had stated it was collection only but i emailed him and asked if he could post them, he replied and said he would check out the postage costs but that was the last i heard from him. The auction ended and the items were never relisted. It was a great bargain, shoes in my size, great harness, chalk bag and karabiners for £60, drats.
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Get your feet measured in Cotswolds, I normally wear a 6.5 in a boot, but when he measured I was a 7 and 7.5 on the left. I ended up getting a pair that were size 8, they are still snug but at least I can walk in them.
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Get your feet measured in Cotswolds, I normally wear a 6.5 in a boot, but when he measured I was a 7 and 7.5 on the left. I ended up getting a pair that were size 8, they are still snug but at least I can walk in them.
That's quite a size difference from normal shoe size to climbing shoe size and i've been getting fairly confused as to what advice to take when reading online articles, some suggest getting a larger size some say get smaller, looks like a trek down to Cotswold then to get a reliable measurement. Thanks.
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So whos all going tonight?
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Yep.
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Yes
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Yes
ooo new boots
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I'll do belay duty to tonight.
My shoulder been playing up but mostly because I've done something to my back that makes getting up sore :( standing is fine :)
Massage???
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I could maybe do a Mr Miyagi on you! ;D
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I could maybe do a Mr Miyagi on you! ;D
This girl has healing hands :) my back feels so much better :-* :)
Wax on, wax off!! Lol
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Pic's?
The photos didn't come out very well because of the chalk in the air.
But this was the best of a bad bunch
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8341/8246328611_36236e04d8.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyj1/8246328611/)
Dave on wall (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyj1/8246328611/) by Lenny J1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/lennyj1/), on Flickr
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Going climbing on Sunday at 1pm at the ozone. Everyone welcome
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2 of us now on sunday.
Perfect time to come and experince it if you cant make the weekday climbing session.
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ohh.. i could maybe make this! I'll let you know later :)
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ohh.. i could maybe make this! I'll let you know later :)
yea :)
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Lenny, how long do you plan on staying?
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Till about half three
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That was a great day, finally managed to get that blue route ticked off. :)
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Had fun today. Think Dave likes his new buys. Got a rope burn
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8257454179_0d561199cd.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyj1/8257454179/)
Dave II Pointing (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyj1/8257454179/) by Lenny J1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/lennyj1/), on Flickr
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8060/8258522792_5e207450c4.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyj1/8258522792/)
Dave II on Wall 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyj1/8258522792/) by Lenny J1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/lennyj1/), on Flickr
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Well done Dave, loving the new shoes and harness..
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Well done Dave, loving the new shoes and harness..
Many thanks, delighted with them, couldn't wait to try them out today.
Way to go the Yakster :)
Did your shoes feel like they made a difference? Say they did cos we kept saying it ;)
Cheers, definitely made a big difference, without them i was taking all the weight on my arms which tired me out too quickly, with the shoes i can actually get a decent grip and put the weight on my legs. After todays session i feel grand, whereas usually my arms feel like two dead fish flopping about. :)
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Still would like to try this, looks like fun.
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So whos coming down tonight?
anyone what to come and try climbing for the first time?
all welcome
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Haven't been able to get down to many Tues Night evenings: unfortunately it's my Krav Maga night on a Tuesday :( .... will keep an eye for other trips tho: really enjoyed it the last time
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Can't make it tonight, not feeling too well and want it cleared up before the weekend. :'(
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Yep.
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What time do you guys meet again?
7pm?
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And do you guys just boulder or have the harness and ropes and all?
Does the Ozone loan shoes? Often wondered
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And do you guys just boulder or have the harness and ropes and all?And do you guys just boulder or have the harness and ropes and all?
Does the Ozone loan shoes? Often wondered
We normally do a bit of both, although our dynamic moves leave alot to be desired :) Its been pretty busy centre rope wise so Lenny has been bringing his for when we cant get a centre one
Im not sure about shoes they do harnesses
They dont do shoes.
Does the Ozone loan shoes? Often wondered
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Is this what you's were like tonight?
&sns=em
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Another good night and another route that has been bugging me completed. This one was a leading route that I could top rope np but just couldnt lead.
Lenny said tonight he was feeling the benefit of going regularly and asked was I to which I said no but i obviously am :)
Great to see Oisin down and watch Speciman-'the noise'-Yak destroy a couple of routes that had proved to much before :)
I do feel alot stronger. my recovery is improving aswell (Less aches the following day) Glad I finished the 5+ Grey route while holding out at the top (Not just tapping it).
So gonna do that 6a Green on saturday.
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Another good night and another route that has been bugging me completed. This one was a leading route that I could top rope np but just couldnt lead.
Lenny said tonight he was feeling the benefit of going regularly and asked was I to which I said no but i obviously am :)
Great to see Oisin down and watch Speciman-'the noise'-Yak destroy a couple of routes that had proved to much before :)
It was a great night, i'm feeling better in recovery the next day and starting to feel the benefits in the arms, i think my screaming technique is coming along, lol :D
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Another good night and another route that has been bugging me completed. This one was a leading route that I could top rope np but just couldnt lead.
Lenny said tonight he was feeling the benefit of going regularly and asked was I to which I said no but i obviously am :)
Great to see Oisin down and watch Speciman-'the noise'-Yak destroy a couple of routes that had proved to much before :)
It was a great night, i'm feeling better in recovery the next day and starting to feel the benefits in the arms, i think my screaming technique is coming along, lol :D
Wimbledon eat your heart out.
I enjoyed it too, must see if I can make it next week too.
Bought some climbing shoes today in Tiso, they had very little left, and I ended up with size 9's. 9 & 1/2's would have been ideal, I'll just have to see if the expand and stretch out a bit with use. Otherwise I might have to sell them on.
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Bought some climbing shoes today in Tiso, they had very little left, and I ended up with size 9's. 9 & 1/2's would have been ideal, I'll just have to see if the expand and stretch out a bit with use. Otherwise I might have to sell them on.
Good stuff Oisín, i've noticed the shoes make a real difference with grip, was there much climbing gear left in Tisos or do you know if there'll be more stock put out?
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Anyone want to go climbing tomorrow?
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=210489 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=210489)
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Are you taking your top off?
I hoping you would ;)
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Anyone want to go climbing tomorrow?
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=210489 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=210489)
Kg... this climbing malarky is really suiting you! you look positively Shamazing!! :D
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Lol.. Never mind the coat!! ;)
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Anyone want to go climbing tomorrow?
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=210489 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=210489)
Kg... this climbing malarky is really suiting you! you look positively Shamazing!! :D
and she clearly knows how to handle a shaft..
i'll get my coat.....
lol TAXI!
Do your leg loops not give you friction burns dressed like that? :o
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Nope, I prefer it that way lol
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Do your let loops not give you friction burns dressed like that? :o
and what about those big nuts banging off your bum, does that not get annoying?
Nope.. It's a nice feeling lol
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You can see a nice mound there too.
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You can see a nice mound there too.
Its cracks look nice and clean too. Shouldn't require cleaning before putting any fingers in them
::)
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You can see a nice mound there too.
Its cracks look nice and clean too. Shouldn't require cleaning before putting any fingers in them
::)
To far?? :)
buy a couple of degrees lol (Only a couple)
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Im going tomorrow, who else?
Bear poo woods ???
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Me!!
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Going to try and get up tomorrow.
Possibly getting some proper fitting climbing shoes in Cotswold/Jacksons and then heading up after.
Lenny could I lend a cam again, I haven't got one yet.
Anyone got advice in regard to Cotswolds or Jacksons, price being a factor (not sure if its just me who notices Jacksons can be a bit dearer)
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Definitely go to Cotswolds..
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Going to try and get up tomorrow.
Possibly getting some proper fitting climbing shoes in Cotswold/Jacksons and then heading up after.
Lenny could I lend a cam again, I haven't got one yet.
Anyone got advice in regard to Cotswolds or Jacksons, price being a factor (not sure if its just me who notices Jacksons can be a bit dearer)
Sure no problem. Go to cotswold and make sure you get a discount
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Lo all,
Unfortunately I won't be going now.. Since the weekend I've developed a head cold with sinusitis.. It feels like it might develop to man flu.. Which I'm sure you all know is very serious indeed.. Have a good one.. I'm away to ring the Doctor
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Lo all,
Unfortunately I won't be going now.. Since the weekend I've developed a head cold with sinusitis.. It feels like it might develop to man flu.. Which I'm sure you all know is very serious indeed.. Have a good one.. I'm away to ring the Doctor
Thats a real shame. I hope to see you back soon. Your boots need some more rubber to come off them
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See everyone later.
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See everyone later.
Great :)
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Had fun last night, tried to lead the Grey 5+ route but didn't have the strength to pull the rope throught the Karabiner at the top.
We were all chating about going down to Tollymore Hotrock on Sunday. I have the car so can provide a lift to some.
Just say if you want to come.
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I enjoyed last night too.
I'm starting to get a bit more of an itch for it all.
Hopefully we'll all get down on Sunday and get some more climbing done!
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I enjoyed last night too.
I'm starting to get a bit more of an itch for it all.
Hopefully we'll all get down on Sunday and get some more climbing done!
If you can make it into Belfast Sunday morning I will give you a lift.
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What time are we leaving at Sunday morning?
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What time are we leaving at Sunday morning?
Was going to leave Belfast at about 10
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Was looking forward to seeing you all again, but suspected it might be closed for the Christmas hols.. confirmed tonight that the centre closes tomorrow and re-opens 29th & 30th and resumes normal opening hours on the 2nd January 2013 :( but.. see you all on the 30th :)
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mmm.. good thinking there ;) could have had some very sad climbers on Sunday.
We could always swap the dates ie do the ozone this Sunday and the hotrock on the 30th.
:( Ive booked the 30th off.. so to speak :-\
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So we shall go for Sunday
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Sunday at the Ozone?
Around 12?
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Sunday at the Ozone?
Around 12?
yeah i'll be there :)
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Just checked my train times, I'll be up closer to 1pm.
Lookin forward to a bit more climbing. :)
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Had a good afternoon today, really felt productive although I did bag a 6a+ so that might have helped :)
Nice one!!
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Got some chalk this evening in easons. 12 varieties of colour, should be able to mark holds easy enough now.
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Yeah was pretty happy, of course Oisin just breezed up it after lolGot some chalk this evening in easons. 12 varieties of colour, should be able to mark holds easy enough now.
Great :) we didn't have any i the house until Tuesday :-/ although she's only two so would t have missed a couple of bits ;)
And that's why they call you the grinch
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Got some chalk this evening in easons. 12 varieties of colour, should be able to mark holds easy enough now.
Good effort Oisin
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I may be up for some climbing on Thursday if anyone is free ???
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Working Thursday sadly. Same again on Sunday? Ozone open I presume?
**EDIT**
Just seen the thread for Sunday,
http://www.ni-wild.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3804.0
I'll talk about it there :)
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Looking forward to tomorrow night, haven't been climbing in an age and need to work off some of the xmas excess, see you all there. :)
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I'll be there :)
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Just wondering if there will be trouble due to 'fleg' protests
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Just wondering if there will be trouble due to 'fleg' protests
not round that part (I dont think)
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Upper Newtownards road and Templemore Ave
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Always wanted to try rock climbing, and at £4 and being so close I don't think I can refuse. As a complete beginner do I just turn up at 7pm?
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Always wanted to try rock climbing, and at £4 and being so close I don't think I can refuse. As a complete beginner do I just turn up at 7pm?
Hi wmoulds
If you come down for about 7 and I will be along about 7:10 and I will sign you in. You cant climb without some one else there who has climbed before.
See you later :)
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Sounds great, see you then! Oh and my sister wants to try it out after talking to her so she may come along also tonight.
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Sounds great, see you then! Oh and my sister wants to try it out after talking to her so she may come along also tonight.
No problem the more the merrier. We have a few people that know what there doing now so you will get some good routes in.
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I'm not venturing out tonight. Hope you's have a good climb.
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Another great night, glad to be back at it again. Good to see wmoulds and sis giving it a go.
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Thanks all for the welcome! Never thought I'd like climbing as much as I did. Though I woke up this morning with plenty of aches lol
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Everyone still going tomorrow night? A bit of a warm-up for Sunday.
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Looking forward to it! Do I have to be signed in again or do I just pay and go in? Also my friend David might come along to try it out as well.
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Looking forward to it! Do I have to be signed in again or do I just pay and go in? Also my friend David might come along to try it out as well.
Yeah, you have to fill in the form for the first couple of times but ask them for your Boost card tomorrow, it costs nothing and it'll be ready at the end of the night so you can pay and go next time without any more filling in of forms. Looking forward to it tomorrow night, the more the merrier.
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I'll be down tonight, wasn't sure I was going to be able to make it.
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I won't be able to make it tonight as I'm working. Will see you's at the weekend.
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Think I'll bring a buff tonight and we can do a bit of blindfold climbing at some point?
Anyone like the idea?
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Think I'll bring a buff tonight and we can do a bit of blindfold climbing at some point?
Anyone like the idea?
They've done that in Megan's class it looks fun.
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Another fun night climbing, tried the blindfold, that was tough.
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Great night all, thanks for being there.
I enjoyed the blindfold climbing, it really made you concentrate on your balance and foot positioning. Something I find myself ignoring at times.
Great practice for the Awesome Walls!
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Thanks for last night, great to see wmoulds return.
fingers crossed I can make sunday
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Anyone up for a climb tomorrow, anytime after 2pm or whatever suits?
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Going to leave climbing til tomorrow, saturday, if anyone's interested, around 2pm.
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Can't make Saturday unfortunately.
I'll be envying you while I'm stuck in work!
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Can't make Saturday unfortunately.
I'll be envying you while I'm stuck in work!
You'll be raring to go at Awesome Walls tomorrow.
A quick climb from 1.30 with LennyJ, that yellow bouldering route is on my hit-list.
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Everyone still going tonight? My arms are a bit tender, but sure, what are you going to do?
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Everyone still going tonight? My arms are a bit tender, but sure, what are you going to do?
I'll be down
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I'll try and get down but no guarantee due to weather and traffic. Does anyone know what the roads are like near the ozone?
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I'll try and get down but no guarantee due to weather and traffic. Does anyone know what the roads are like near the ozone?
There clear all round town and Belfast
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See you all later.
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I live on the outskirts of south belfast and it's still pretty bad here :( , don't want to take the risk of going out onto the roads. But if the snow clears away later in the week and anyone is going for a climb let me know!
Anyway enjoy tonight! Disappointed in missing out.
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That was a good night, tired at the moment.
But if the snow clears away later in the week and anyone is going for a climb let me know!
A few of us may be heading to the Ozone on Thursday, will keep you posted.
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I've been a tad busy trying to source some freelance work over the next few months to go climbing, but I got some good news today after taking a trip up the North coast, so hopefully will be getting some work with them. It maybe a bit of a hike up there, but the perks are that he is willing to train me up to SPA and more, plus he is looking 'guinea pigs' to go Multi pitching at all levels as he is looking to do his MIL/A so watch this space as I will be looking to recruit you's.
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That was a good night, tired at the moment.
A few of us may be heading to the Ozone on Thursday, will keep you posted.
Thursday would suit perfect.
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Thursday would suit perfect.
About 7pm at the Ozone then.
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Cya's then :)
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Sorry I couldn't make it
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A good night, starting from next week i'm going to head over to the Ozone 2-3 times a week if anyone else is interested.
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Thoroughly enjoying night, glad to see it more empty lol. I'll be trying to go at least once a week but anyone going anyother night keep me posted as I could be interested. Need to work a lot on my technique.
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Forgot to mention that on thursday night, whilst trying to get that yellow bouldering route sorted i banged my elbow on one of the nubs and it drew BLOOD. Yep, that route drew FIRST BLOOD so it's now asking for it, it's on. :D
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Forgot to mention that on thursday night, whilst trying to get that yellow bouldering route sorted i banged my elbow on one of the nubs and it drew BLOOD. Yep, that route drew FIRST BLOOD so it's now asking for it, it's on. :D
WAR HUH YEAH WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR!!!!!!! :)
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Would look nice in the back garden:
http://goo.gl/6QqBd
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Is this on this Tuesday Lenny? Had a wee day out yesterday climbing and could really use more exercise at it.
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Yeah, Tuesdays about 7
On another note we had a huge floating sheet of ice that needed someone to walk on during our summit of hen...we needed our resident stuntman!!
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I'm in and bringing my mate Cathy.
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I was climbing up there on saturday, I was very tempted...very very tempted but decided better. I did however have some fun on the last bit of snow doing my penguin impression and going down it face first.
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I'm in and bringing my mate Cathy.
Thats great. Havent Seen you climbing in months!
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Class, looks like there's going to be a great turn out on tuesday. ;)
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I'll bring Grace too. :)
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Cant make tomorrow, first time I will have to miss out. >:(
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I'm gonna miss tonight feeling rough still :(
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Sorry to hear you both aren't coming tonight, you'll be missed.
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If anyone who is coming and has quickdraws could you bring them? Even if you don't fancy leading, just so were not stuck to one route with that climbing class telling us to go away.
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Sorry to hear you both aren't coming tonight, you'll be missed.
Cheers Dave.
If anyone who is coming and has quickdraws could you bring them? Even if you don't fancy leading, just so were not stuck to one route with that climbing class telling us to go away.
Sorry Oisin, just thought that me or dave ussally bring quickdraws. I know Shamara has some.
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Had a good night, seemed quieter than usual, that yellow bouldering route is almost with-in grasp.
Here's a good deal for a harness, belay device and karabiner for roughly £43 if anyone's looking for one, offer ends this weekend:
http://goo.gl/Egisk
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Good night too. And I agree it was quieter than usual. Maybe get down on Thursday, plan depending!
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As I am in work from 12-8 I am going down to the wall tomorrow morning. Be there from 9 in the morning if anyones around.
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As I am in work from 12-8 I am going down to the wall tomorrow morning. Be there from 9 in the morning if anyones around.
Why not pop in after work, you know we'll be there til 9.30/9.45.
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Couldn't make it on tuesday with work and family commitments but I should be heading down tomorrow night at some point if anyone is going?
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Couldn't make it on tuesday with work and family commitments but I should be heading down tomorrow night at some point if anyone is going?
Yep, there'll be a few of us there from 6pm tomorrow, see you then.
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That was a long night, feel all the better for it. Wmoulds and Sarah, you'll defeat that white route next time. :)
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A few of us are going for another climbing session tomorrow from 12.30 if anyone else is interested.
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A few of us are going for another climbing session tomorrow from 12.30 if anyone else is interested.
i heard you were go camping with us yak?
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I heard you were go camping with us yak?
I don't know MM, i just can't make my mind up after last weeks Hen Mountain failure, i'm feeding my climbing addiction at the moment but let me see what i can get sorted. Back in ten.
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Ok, looks like climbing is off for me tomorrow and the bivvy is on. ;D ;D ;D
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Anyone heading down for a climb today?
Cheers Yak, that white route has just become my nemeses!
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Many going climbing this Tuesday at the Ozone? I got myself some climbing shoes and I'm looking forward to testing them.
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I'll be there on Tuesday for certain, as long as nothing falls on me.
I feel I'm progressing with my technique, so I have to keep practicing.
I also enjoy teaching the newer members and watching them progress faster than I am!
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Naw I think that idiot that let the rope slide last time aint coming this time. :D
Think he might have learned not to do that though lol.
My friend Tom is gonna come down too, he has no kit but can have a wee play about on the bouldering walls.
Looking forward to tuesday night.
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He can borrow a harness from the center, we'll get him up the wall in no time.
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I'm planning on heading down for 6pm tomorrow if anyone else fancies a longer session, seems to be a bit quieter at that time and gives a good hour to get warmed up.
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I'll be down around ten past six.
I may be there a couple of minutes earlier, depending on how fast I feel like walking and if I jump the gate or not. :D
I'll bring that bivvy bag for you!
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I'll be down after 7. can I come and borrow one of you to sign me and tom in? I'll register tomorrow for my own card.
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I'll be down around ten past six.
I may be there a couple of minutes earlier, depending on how fast I feel like walking and if I jump the gate or not. :D
I'll bring that bivvy bag for you!
Brilliant, i'll see you there. Looking forward to trying that bivvy, it'll cut the pack size down immensely.
I'll be down after 7. can I come and borrow one of you to sign me and tom in? I'll register tomorrow for my own card.
Sure, see you tomorrow then.
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Who's heading tonight? I'll be there at 7pm tonight instead of 6pm as i was shattered by 8pm on Tuesday, it was a long weekend though. :)
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I might be down the wall over the weekend if anyone wants? :)
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I might be down the wall over the weekend if anyone wants? :)
I'll more than likely join you, maybe sunday as it's that bit quieter and gives us more wall to play with.
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Megan starts at ganaway tonight so Thursdays will most likely always be out for me now.
I'm still not feeling right but if I'm better (oh please let it be!! Over two weeks of feeling ill :( ) I might take my stuff on Saturday afternoon while Megan's in her class.
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Megan starts at ganaway tonight so Thursdays will most likely always be out for me now.
I'm still not feeling right but if I'm better (oh please let it be!! Over two weeks of feeling ill :( ) I might take my stuff on Saturday afternoon while Megan's in her class.
Hope you're feeling better by the weekend, i'm sure you're itching to get a climbing session in, sure we'll play it by ear and see who else can make saturday then.
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Megan starts at ganaway tonight so Thursdays will most likely always be out for me now.
I'm still not feeling right but if I'm better (oh please let it be!! Over two weeks of feeling ill :( ) I might take my stuff on Saturday afternoon while Megan's in her class.
Hope you're feeling better by the weekend, i'm sure you're itching to get a climbing session in, sure we'll play it by ear and see who else can make saturday then.
Lol no go for Sunday if its quieter i know i would, I'm happy to just boulder on Saturday.
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I'm up for tonight and possibly the weekend. Hopefully see you around 7pm yak.
Typo-on, I know the feeling, I felt ill for 3-4 weeks over Xmas, went to doctors, got antibiotics for stomach infection and within a week I was all better. In hindsight I wish I went to doctors sooner rather than thinking it will pass. Anyway get well soon!
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I'm up for tonight and possibly the weekend. Hopefully see you around 7pm yak.
See you then.
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It seemed a lot busier last night and i was still as tired as i felt on Tuesday, not a lot of climbing but stuck to bouldering. Wmoulds arrived in his shiny new kit ready to destroy all the routes. Looking forward to a weekend session after a good nights rest.
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Anyone heading down today to the wall?
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Going down to the wall tomorrow at 12 o'clock if anyone's up for it
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I'll be there, cya then.
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I'll be there, cya then.
Coolio
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I'll be there for 12.
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Really enjoyed the session today, Karma to Lenny for showing me how to lead a route for the first time. :)
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Excellent! :)
Did they change many routes? (it looked like they were working away at them yesterday)
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Excellent! :)
Did they change many routes? (it looked like they were working away at them yesterday)
Cheers.
It didn't look like there were any changed routes, unless they were tightening loose nubs yesterday or just having a general up-keep.
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Excellent! :)
Did they change many routes? (it looked like they were working away at them yesterday)
Cheers.
It didn't look like there were any changed routes, unless they were tightening loose nubs yesterday or just having a general up-keep.
He spent alot of time around the right hand side corner of the middle overhang ( where that orange route that works its way up the corner is) and on the face of the overhang too.
I wasn't paying much attention as I was watching Megan.
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Thats an odd one, I climbed that orange on Tuesday and it wasn't loose.
But good on you Yak for your first lead. Was it on the sloper wall at the far right?
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He spent alot of time around the right hand side corner of the middle overhang ( where that orange route that works its way up the corner is) and on the face of the overhang too.
I wasn't paying much attention as I was watching Megan.
There were no ropes up at that section when we there, so we couldn't climb it, but didn't notice any changes though, we'll have to take a closer look on Tuesday.
But good on you Yak for your first lead. Was it on the sloper wall at the far right?
Yeah, the red route then the green at the corner on the sloper wall section, it's nervy enough for a first time but good to make a start. Lenny then showed us a multi-pitch on the blue route, cajones the size of boulders that dude.
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. Lenny then showed us a multi-pitch on the blue route, cajones the size of boulders that dude.
How do you multi-pitch at the Ozone? am I being daft?
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How do you multi-pitch at the Ozone? am I being daft?
You'll have to get Lenny to show you, much too complicated for my Yak brain to explain. He was able to do it because it was quiet at the wall today so he could take up two routes, the rope always being tied into another pitch for safety.
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Thoroughly enjoyed it as well. It was great being empty, choice of all routes to climb etc. Gona try to go more often at weekends now. Really looking forward to getting some technique built up.
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Looks like I missed a good day then!
I'll just have to settle with pullups and deadhangs on the doorframe.
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Looks like I missed a good day then!
I'll just have to settle with pullups and deadhangs on the doorframe.
You did climb a mountain route during the week, you deserved a day off. :)
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Power screaming and vocal exercise class tonight at the Ozone, see you all there. :D
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I had a lazy night at the Ozone tonight. But glad I lead a 6+ :)
Oh, btw, did I by any chance grab anyone else's Nalgene Flask? I don't recognise the one I'm drinking from.
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It was a tiring night, good fun as usual but i'm tired now.
Not my flask, don't know whose one you grabbed.
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Not mine either..
I found last night really hard, routes that had become warm up routes required effort :( suppose that's my punishment for not attending recently :P
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Heading up the Mournes Mon and Tuesday for multi-pitch climbs. Can't wait.
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Going down to the ozone Saturday evening at 7 if anyone wants to join me.
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Going down to the ozone Saturday evening at 7 if anyone wants to join me.
I'll join you at this.
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Going down to the ozone Saturday evening at 7 if anyone wants to join me.
I'll join you at this.
See you then
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Is there any chance you can come down earlier? At 5pm for instance? Got to go out for sisters birthday at around 7.30-8pm but wouldn't like to miss a bit of climbing.
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Is there any chance you can come down earlier? At 5pm for instance? Got to go out for sisters birthday at around 7.30-8pm but wouldn't like to miss a bit of climbing.
I cant as I am busy till 7. Bring you sister along and tell her its her birthday present ;D
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Tonight as usual everyone? 8)
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Tonight as usual everyone? 8)
I will be finishing work at 6.30pm and going straigh over. Going to get on the big wall tonight
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I'll be down too! Though I'm wrecked so don't expect to do loads.
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Really enjoyed tonight, it was good to try and fail a couple of routes. I also enjoyed the bit of man bonding with Lenny :D :D
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Really enjoyed tonight, it was good to try and fail a couple of routes. I also enjoyed the bit of man bonding with Lenny :D :D
;D
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Hi there,
I'm a new member on the forum. Just wanted to know if you wouldn't mind me joining your group at the Ozone to try and get some experience climbing. I just posted up a new thread in the introductions. If anyone is looking for someone to climb with during the day I'm usually free if you can't get no one else lol.
I have been going over to the ozone for the last couple of weeks first thing in the morning and doing a bit of bouldering. More or less to get a bit of a work out tbh.
Thanks, Gary.
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Ah just posted in your introduction thread, yeah np we are normally here around 7pm look forward to seeing you.
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Hi Gary,
I would be free during the day if you want to meet up.
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Really enjoyed tonight, it was good to try and fail a couple of routes. I also enjoyed the bit of man bonding with Lenny :D :D
I misread that for a second, I'm glad I took the time to re-read it
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Ah just posted in your introduction thread, yeah np we are normally here around 7pm look forward to seeing you.
Nice one! Looking forward to coming over.
Hi Gary,
I would be free during the day if you want to meet up.
Yes, sounds great. I plan to go over on Monday at the moment. Be sure to let me know if any other days suit you :)
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Heading over to the Ozone for 6.30pm tonight, see you all there.
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What you wearing and I'll come over for half six also. Just thought there that I don't know what anybody looks like lol.
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What you wearing and I'll come over for half six also. Just thought there that I don't know what anybody looks like lol.
I'll be wearing a green jacket and black jeans and i'll be cycling over, i'll meet you at reception, see you there.
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I had a blast tonight, finally got that yellow bouldering route down on the first attempt, now to try and keep at it consistently every time, a few pics from tonight (i now know for next time to keep the flash off as it picks up all the chalk dust floating around).
(http://i.imgur.com/9BKxcxg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/R78LfJQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mbLQunU.jpg)
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A big thanks to Lenny and the lads for making me very welcome on Tuesday evening at the ozone. Thoroughly enjoyed myself and I had a good laugh too. It was great to get above 10 feet again.
I did see Dave (specimenYak) complete that yellow boulder route and I will definitely be back for more ;D
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A big thanks to Lenny and the lads for making me very welcome on Tuesday evening at the ozone. Thoroughly enjoyed myself and I had a good laugh too. It was great to get above 10 feet again.
I did see Dave (specimenYak) complete that yellow boulder route and I will definitely be back for more ;D
Good to see you there, looking forward to many more great nights.
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A big thanks to Lenny and the lads for making me very welcome on Tuesday evening at the ozone. Thoroughly enjoyed myself and I had a good laugh too. It was great to get above 10 feet again.
I did see Dave (specimenYak) complete that yellow boulder route and I will definitely be back for more ;D
lol I cant help but think Dave II for the Yakster. Its all Lenny's fault not mine :P
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I'm exchanging the granite for climbing wall tonight.. So should see you down there.
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Good stuff KG, i'll be there for 7pm tonight, see everyone there.
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Im not climbing tonight. Have fun. Dave r u still free this sunday?
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You talkin to me?..... ;)
I assume its yak :)
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You talkin to me?..... ;)
I assume its yak :)
Both of you really
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As I can't make the Friday night camp as I have work on Saturday. I will be going down the wall after work on Friday. Aim to be for 5:15pm if anyone's around?
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As I can't make the Friday night camp as I have work on Saturday. I will be going down the wall after work on Friday. Aim to be for 5:15pm if anyone's around?
I'll join you tomorrow Lenny as i can't make it tonight.
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As I can't make the Friday night camp as I have work on Saturday. I will be going down the wall after work on Friday. Aim to be for 5:15pm if anyone's around?
I'll join you tomorrow Lenny as i can't make it tonight.
Good times. See you tomorrow.
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That was a good night, fingers and palms are roughed up nicely. :)
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Had to give it a miss this week with working late. Sounds like i missed a good one :(
See ya'all next week :)
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Anyone up for a climbing session later, i can make it for 5pm but anytime suits.
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Two posts ago I said, "see ya'll next week".
Unfortunately not. Sustained an injury to my left ankle so have to sit this week out >:(
Didn't want you guys thinking I was a one hit wonder :P
I'll be back down as soon as I'm able.
Enjoy the wall :)
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Two posts ago I said, "see ya'll next week".
Unfortunately not. Sustained an injury to my left ankle so have to sit this week out >:(
Didn't want you guys thinking I was a one hit wonder :P
I'll be back down as soon as I'm able.
Enjoy the wall :)
Take it easy GMB, and see you down at the wall when you're fit and ready.
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Heading over to the Ozone for 10am if anyone's up for a session.
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Anyone going tonight?
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Anyone going tonight?
I'm going to try and get there for 6pm.
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The back of my hands are hurting after last night. I climbed the crack hands only and feet any colour.
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Nice one Lenny!
Did you have any of your tape slapped on them or were you au naturel?
That resin finish takes no prisoners.
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All natural. Forearms were pumped after lol
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All natural. Forearms were pumped after lol
Apart from the tape on the fingers, eh. :D
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Ozone closed tonight >:(
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Anyone going tonight? its been awhile.
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Haven't been on the forums for ages due to work but I'll be making an effort of going tonight. Going to be so rusty but looking forward to it!
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I cant make it to the usual ozone one, but does anyone climb at the PEC? The wall is great
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I heard it was good. Do you need to be a student to use it?
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nope, they run a climbing course in the summer which is 65 for members or 80 or so for non members, I think the guest rate to use the wall per use is 4 pounds. you dont have to be a student, they do public memberships, I'm not a student myself!
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I inquired about the cost of dropping into the climbing wall for a one-off session and got this reply today:
"The only pay and go option that we have is for students, and this cost is £4 for QUB students and £6 for any other university/school. If you are not a student the only way to gain casual access is to come as a guest of a member, and the charge for this is £9."
Here's their prices for public membership:
http://goo.gl/oAUjW
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ah that changes things a bit, but to be fair that 9 pounds does also give you access to a fitness suite, free weights room (really well equipped), strength and conditioning suite, olympic pool, diving pool and sauna among other things!
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9 quid?!
That must include a goodie bag & a "I went all the way to the top at QUB" T-shirt.
Edit: just seen your post robertsreilly. Is the pool 50m? I use to drive down to Dublin a few times a year to use the Olympic pool down there. £9 doesn't seem to bad if you make a day out of it.
DW used to charge a tenner for non member single day use!
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Lol, i know, we're spoilt over at the Ozone, but they've raised their prices as well, it's a whopping £4.20 a session now. :o
9 quid?!
That must include a goodie bag & a "I went all the way to the top at QUB" T-shirt.
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Indoor/Outdoor: Indoor Pool Length: 25 Meters
Lanes: 6
Pool Width: 13 Meters Chlorine-Free: Yes
Pool Depth: 1.2 Meters (something like 6' 4 at deep end.)
Shape: Rectangle
I was mistaken, it feels bigger to me, but I'm not serious about my swimming.
Read more at: http://swim.isport.com/swimming-pools/gb/northern-ireland/belfast/the-queens-university-physical-education-centre-45100
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Yeah, £9 does seem reasonable if you get access to the rest of those amenities, what size is the climbing wall over there? The Ozone wall is roughly 15 metres in height by about 40 meters in length including the two bouldering sections.
ah that changes things a bit, but to be fair that 9 pounds does also give you access to a fitness suite, free weights room (really well equipped), strength and conditioning suite, olympic pool, diving pool and sauna among other things!
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Aaahhhh, I thought it might be 25m. I think there is only two 50m pools in the whole of Ireland and none in the North. I always liked the thought that you were swimming 'half' the number of lengths you normally do for a given set. Mentally it makes getting through 3000m+ sessions seem easier even though the lengths are twice the distance. Weird but true ???
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I'm not 100% sure, id say it is about that height maybe a bit narrower but it has cool caves and stuff, I'm a bit foggy on the dimensions you might be better to call and ask, or go in and take a look, its a good job in any case.
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Thanks, it's just down the road from me so it's worth a look just for the change.
I'm not 100% sure, id say it is about that height maybe a bit narrower but it has cool caves and stuff, I'm a bit foggy on the dimensions you might be better to call and ask, or go in and take a look, its a good job in any case.
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Aaahhhh, I thought it might be 25m. I think there is only two 50m pools in the whole of Ireland and none in the North. I always liked the thought that you were swimming 'half' the number of lengths you normally do for a given set. Mentally it makes getting through 3000m+ sessions seem easier even though the lengths are twice the distance. Weird but true ???
Bangor has a new 50m pool
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Bangor has a new 50m pool
Ha, so it does! Would have been better in Belfast.
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Had a great bouldering session with wmoulds at the Ozone last night, really enjoying the freedom of it without being tied to a rope and it's working wonders on getting the hands toughened up and building strength.
Heading over during the weekend if anyone fancies it.
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specimanYak, I was over at the wall this morning with my Bro and they were stripping the boulder section right back to the bare boards (right hand corner). The wall is closed tomorrow for an event but you maybe knew that anyway with the notices they put up. Might be good for Sunday though???
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It's the second round (northern rounds) of the Youth climbing series tomorrow. Go down and see some real climbing talent in action!
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Yeah, as Typo has quoted it's the Junior climbing comp, but it finishes at 5pm then it's open for every-one again. I may actually pop over for a look around 4pm and learn something from the talented wee ones and then stay on for some bouldering.
specimanYak, I was over at the wall this morning with my Bro and they were stripping the boulder section right back to the bare boards (right hand corner). The wall is closed tomorrow for an event but you maybe knew that anyway with the notices they put up. Might be good for Sunday though???
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Heading over to the Ozone climbing wall today if anyone's up for it.
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Hi all you climbing people. Going up to Banone for a weeks camping in July and was wondering if any of you know of any good solo routes up along the North Coast direction? I know of one or two up along Bienvenna, good for abseiling too actually but was hoping for somewhere new to try out.
Any suggestions would be appreciated, might give the Ozone a try next Tuesday if you guys are still going and if I'm allowed out!!!!
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Should add i'm not looking anything to technical at the moment, still recovering from dislocated shoulder but doing plenty of gym work working on strength, thanks guys...
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Alright guys: is Tuesday evenings still going? I wasn't able to usually get there as I'd a class on that evening but that's changed now. Is there still people climbing on Tuesdays? (Or Other days: I'm quite near so it's handy!)
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I was there yesterday afternoon around 5ish and may pop over again today around the same time if that suits?
Alright guys: is Tuesday evenings still going? I wasn't able to usually get there as I'd a class on that evening but that's changed now. Is there still people climbing on Tuesdays? (Or Other days: I'm quite near so it's handy!)
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Will def give u a shout when I'm free: too good an evening tonight to go indoors.... Away for a BBQ!
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Anyone head to the Ozone regularly? I'm doing one of their classes on a Tues but I'm about 10 mins away so would like to go other nights too.
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I'm pretty close too. Been meaning to get over there. Will post on here when I'm heading.
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Finally got my rock shoes out of their box at a Tollymore course a couple of weeks ago ....if anyone's doing the Tuesday thing shout...
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Yep - I'm there a few nights every week but not til after 8 on Tuesdays.
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I could do Tuesday's again now that I've a bit of free time.. It won't be this week but can do the following week.
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Is there anyone still climning here on a tuesday evening? ;D
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I'm at the ozone every Tue evening but have never knowingly met anyone else from here :_).
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It's far too busy on Tuesdays. Looking forward to this new boulder work opening!
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Hey guys,
Are there still a few of you bunch meeting up at the Ozone on Tuesdays? I'm basically a complete beginner, I went to climbfest a few years ago but done more watching than actual climbing :-\!!
;D
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I'm still at the Ozone every Tues but have yet to knowingly meet anyone from here :_).
If you're a beginner you might be best taking one of the classes.
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Hiya,
Yeah I intend to do the course but am 3 weeks late for the current course :(
I've emailed for more dates so fingers crossed!
Hopefully we'll meet up down there in the future when I know a little more!
Cheers ;)
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Sure, feel free to let me know if you're going to be there.
You could also try BWB where you just need to do an induction thing. But it's just bouldering, no roped climbing - http://www.boulderworldbelfast.com/first-time-climbing/
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Thanks for that. I think I'd like to stick to the Ozone if possible because I've a boost membership so it'll be (theoretically) free to use the walls if I do the course there.
I'll let you know when I eventually make it!
All the best
:)